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President Volodymyr Zelenskyy believes that the possibility of ending the war or achieving a truce in Ukraine hinges on Europe’s readiness to take a tougher stance on Russia.
Source: Zelenskyy in an interview with Polish media during a visit to Warsaw on 15 January, as reported by European Pravda
Details: Asked to comment on the possibility of ending the Russo-Ukrainian war in 2025, Zelenskyy said he felt such a desire on the part of US President-elect Donald Trump.
“I’m sure that Russia fears the United States, fears China and fears a united Europe. Without the Ukrainian army, Europe cannot cope with the Russian army, because the Russian army is bigger. Russia has more weapons, more people and is more brutal than Europeans,” Zelenskyy emphasised.
He also stressed that Europeans live in a democracy and “don’t know what war is”, unlike Russia.
“And without the Ukrainian army, Europe, sadly, has no chance against Russia today. [Kremlin ruler Vladimir] Putin knows this and talks about it in his entourage. Therefore, he will quickly move on if Ukraine does not defend itself. That’s a fact,” Zelenskyy said.
is he insane? Ukraine can’t even hold it’s own defensive lines!
…and another thought: Europe would be in an even more dire situation if the remnant now experienced Ukrainian military was to join Russian efforts after a political collapse of Ukraine.
Literally the dumbest thing he can say. Europe would crush Russia like a bug. Hell even Poland alone could probably do it.
and 10% for the big guy
Damn Straight!!!
Whether or not he’s right, it’s absolutely in Europe’s interest not to have to find out. Why not help Ukraine win the war now, when it only costs us money and equipment, instead of having to have our soldiers (and civilians) die, once Russia moves onto the Baltics?!
Hang on there, Sparky. You’re using our money, weapons and expertise, I think your contribution will be minimal.
GIVE US A CREDIT
Lol, if Europe wanted to, they could hand Russia their own ass.
This is true. Poland and Ukraine are the only two capable of waging a land war in Europe. France has the air force but not the artillery and drones . Germany can’t even make ammunition.
The West has been fighting with one hand tied behind their backs since WW2 trying to keep some sort of peace. If another WW was to start the west would unleash a monster nobody wants to see
I hope he wins!
I think what he’s trying to say is that without Ukraine’s example, Putin would pick off European countries through hybrid war. European electorates would fall for his divisive propaganda and just vote themselves out of opposition
I mean, if Europe ain’t gonna do shit about Ruzzia, then yeah, only Ukraine stands between the barbarians and Europe, they’d probably just scratch their heads and wonder why their strong worded letters didn’t work, then proceed to prostrate themselves to the Ruzzis.
Absolutely agree. Ukraine’s support is essential for Europe to effectively counter Russian aggression.
Lol is this a joke? Or by Europe did they just mean turkey or Spain by themselves cause the entirety of Europe will crush Russia.
Translation: “Without NATO declaring war on Russia real soon, Ukraine will have to sue for peace and concede territory.”
UA is the shield of freedom!
Russia hasn’t met Poland evidently but I understand where he’s coming from. Ukraine literally is the buffer between Russia and the dare I say “free world”
With a will to peace, diplomatic efforts could lead to a more normal situation with peace and trade in the old world, but not everyone is interested in that and therefore things will go as they go. The idea that a strong nuclear power would allow itself to be crushed will be fatal.
Why is Europe not funding Ukraine more? Literally they could do so much more by providing weapons and more money but they are just letting the U.S. pay the bulk of it and it’s not even at their foot steps, it’s at Europe. Trump is more than likely pulling fundings in the first week of his presidency, so what’s the plan for Europe? Let Ukraine fall then what?
Russia is very dangerous because they got so many nukes, intercontinental missles and submarines capable of carrying them. Apart from that they are still powerful but europe can manage that i mean right now Ukraine manage them so we should be good too.
So realisticly Zelensky is wrong and instead we have no chance against russia without the US and their nuclear arsenal which sucks but nobody in europe is willing to change that so i guess lets hope the americans never elect somebody stupid.
Russians can’t even invade Ukraine without getting bogged down. Let alone take on the Germans or French. Just because we haven’t seen them in a war lately doesn’t mean they’re not still capable.
Ah, Horse-shit.
I think us is ready to let Europe descend into war once again to gain a comparative advantage
People are acting as though he couldn’t possibly have meant what he said, or that Zelenskiy is “delusional” but I’m honestly not so sure about that.
How would a nation like Germany or Poland, say, propose to deal with a hundred Shaheds plus ballistic missiles and glide bombs coming their way *every single night*? For months?
Given time, of course these nations could adapt to the new reality, as Ukraine has adapted, but as of right now they’d suffer *incredibly* hard. And unlike Ukraine they wouldn’t have the benefit that at least their enemy is only just figuring all of this out too.
I mean I’m sure a few dozen F-35s would wreak havoc, but I want to say it’s at least *doubtful* that they’d win a war all by themselves, against a decentralised foe with *vast* amounts of cheap plastic drones to throw at us.
Lmao zelenskyy better focus on trying to get a deal and stop his troops from feeling battle frontlines I swear I think he’s the worst guy to steer his country
Europe can handle Russia just fine. Poland is enough because NATO
Ukraine is the one who has no chance against Russia without the support of the rest of Europe
I think his 800,000 military is hardened now. No other country has that current experience.
Zelensky is exaggerating, but there is some truth in it. Many people overlook that Ukraine had a large army before the war, much larger than France, Germany or Italy. Before the war, Ukraine had 2,000 tanks, not including at least 500 tanks that Western countries helped it with during the war, and a large number of artillery. In contrast, France, Germany and Italy each had only more than 200 tanks. European countries have relatively advanced air forces, but the sum of their air force fighters is only slightly more than Russia, and cannot form an overwhelming air superiority. This does not include the possibility that China may provide Russia with large-scale weapons and equipment if the war situation continues to deteriorate for Russia. Moreover, the nationalism in Western European countries is far less than that in Eastern European countries. Few young people in countries like France and Germany are willing to fight for their country, which is in stark contrast to the rising nationalism in Russia, Ukraine and Poland.
Ukraines military wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for the rest of the world/Europe
Russia will win by convincing idiots to vote for pro-Russian politicians. They won’t have to fire a shot to conquer Europe. All they have to do is continue their massive disinformation campaigns.