Brasilianischer Student, der über Weihnachten aus Irland abgeschoben wurde, behauptet, er sei aufgrund eines Papierkramfehlers „hilflos“ geworden
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/01/02/brazilian-student-deported-from-ireland-over-christmas-claims-paperwork-error-left-him-helpless/
Von leglath
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> He said he tried showing the email to the immigration officer who didn’t believe him. “He said: No, you’re lying. Your letter is fake, your school is fake, and your job is fake. I told him I needed to make a call to prove it and he said that I wouldn’t call anyone.”
This is too stressful to read
>countries to stay in Ireland for more than 90 days, expired on November 3rd but he told the immigration officer he had requested a renewal on October 26th.
legally the immigration officer is in the correct here , you have to have a valid GNIB to re-enter the country ( they didnt )
the law specifies this no ifs or buts , their have been stories historically people using fake documents to trick immigration officer
this is probably why he didnt accpet any emails ( since emails can be faked really easily)
i think the leason we can have is dont leave the country when you have such important things not sorted
The whole IRP renewal thing was always so stressful for me, you never knew how much time it was going to take, even as a long term resident on a stamp 4.
This was such a sad read, poor guy.
> full time 15 hours per week English course.
Mhm
He’s a very hairy looking student. We all know these student visas are being abused by people who are just looking to work which i have no issue with . Just apply for the correct visa to work in this country. It’s about time they started doing it . You can’t get of thr plane in Australia and expect to get in no bother so same rule applies to all. Every country has a right to ask who wants entry to there country .
Feel sorry for this guy because the government have setup this system that allows English students to work 2 part times jobs equalling a full time job, All to serve the irish economy with cheap labour and the english schools to rent out properties for extortionate prices. He just got caught up in it.
A bit like another commentator, I do feel somewhat bad for this guy, but if his ID was wildly out of date that’s on him. The mood music has changed around anything goes immigration and it’s unlikely to change. Make sure your shit is straight before leaving the country. I also don’t have much respect for the fact he was attempting to get back in via the UK.
Related to this, there really needs to be a discussion about the English language course mill, which to be plain about it, is really a nod and a wink way for non EEA people to get a foothold in the labour market.
>Feeling increasingly helpless, with no money to stay in France, or to pay for a ticket to Brazil, Mr Souza believed his best option was to attempt to return to Ireland via the UK
So he was refused entry then tried to sneak in.
He gets refused entry and his immediate response is to attempt to abuse the Common Travel Area by entering the UK to sneak back into Ireland, which is in and of itself another ground for refusal into Ireland or the UK.
The timeline as per the article.
October 26th, he applied for a visa renewal. Processing time was up to two weeks.
November 3rd – Visa expired.
November 10th – Visa should have been received.
November 28th – Dept of Justice issues travel allowance for people with “recently expired” visas.
December 23rd – Flew out from Dublin still having not received any renewal confirmation.
December 27th – Flew in from Paris and refused permission to land.
December 28th – Placed on a plane back to Paris.
He then attempted to enter Ireland illegally via the UK. He was stopped by UK immigration before crossing to Dover.
His manager then purchased him a ticket to Brazil on December 30th.
There’s nothing to suggest his visa was or was going to be renewed. It doesn’t seem his application was delayed due to processing times. He doesn’t seem to have followed up on his visa and left the country nearly two months after it was expired.
His first instinct was to try re-enter the country illegally rather than follow up on his visa. I have doubts over his honesty here. It sounds more like his visa application was rejected and he played dumb.
Gosh I feel terrible for this guy. So much stress.
I’ve never known an immigration gardai to be unreasonable or unkind though. They’re always nice and helpful (though I’ve never dealt with them in Dublin).
I’d love it if Irish Times investigates whether he did in fact apply for renewal before IRP expiry date though. Not saying I am certain he didn’t, but if not, it sounds like he dealt with a proper devil of a border agent.
It would be heartbreaking if this kid got so royally fucked when following the rules and official govt advice for travel.
Sob
Bye! Don’t come back. We don’t need ye.
As soon as it said “trip to continental Europe” I knew it Amsterdam – Brussels – Paris, these seems to be the only places* in Europe Brazilians are allowed to go to.
*Also Mykonos and Liverpool
Irony is if he had no passport he could have just landed and be let in
I don’t like the approach to renter illegally..
Travelling on expired IRP was a first mistake. Regardless of statements from department of justice, border control of many countries including Ireland may act accordingly to their own judgement.
Secondly why didn’t he show his expired IRP? From what I see it’s not required to send an old IRP for the renewal. Was he planning to return with just his student card and a letter of employment?
Fair play to his boss for paying his ticket back to Brazil. That was sound out
He was allowed stay in Paris for up to 90 days but chose to go back to Brazil, would it not have been easier to stay in a hostel til he got sorted then a 3hr flight back to Dublin..
Someone is telling little porkies
>Mr Souza believed his best option was to attempt to return to Ireland via the UK
I sympathize with his situation but he was crazy to travel in the first place and attempting to enter via the UK makes me question his story.
He wasn’t deported, he was refused leave to land. Deportation is a different thing entirely.
The fact that they got such a basic detail wrong in the headline makes me wonder what else is going on here.
He applied for a renewal on 26th October with a 10-15 working day expected wait time and hadn’t received it when he flew out ~35 working days later. . . .there’s something not being mentioned.
Also, where someone is being refused leave to land, the immigration officers can look up records on the system. If he was renewed & the card was pending I’m pretty sure they could see that.
Seems a decent sort. Brazilians are a close cultural fit for ireland . I say let him back in! Let bygones be bygones