“and is widely supported by the public” fucking what?? Not the irish public. What public supported this?
muttonwow on
Once this passes and the public immediately stops caring because the Internet hysteria dies, it’ll make a clear case for the expanded hate speech laws that have been worked on.
MrFnRayner on
If you’re upset about being punished for a hate crime, don’t commit hate crimes.
Freedom of speech is not affected, you just face harsher consequences for being racist, homophobic or transphobic publicly.
That’s a good thing.
Kyadagum_Dulgadee on
Do I have time to get indoors before the sky falls?
Small-Wonder7503 on
A good start to 2025!
VanillaCommercial394 on
Can I still say Meath are shite ?
joc95 on
People who are against the hate speech law. Can any of you give examples of things you or anyone else may say that would cause them to break that law or get a conviction?
The3rdbaboon on
Cool. Build a new prison and recruit more Gardaí please. Although I think this is all she’s really capable of unfortunately.
Surely in the running for the worst Justice minister ever.
irish_guy on
Is there any legal TLDR?
Do these laws just punish people for existing laws but enhance the punishment if it’s motivated by hatred?
Or is their new laws for speech? i.e if I called someone a racial slur, is that in itself now punishable without any other factors?
JammyNugget on
This could be the beginning of a slippery slope into authoritarianism
nobodyshome01 on
Other than online, I’ve never heard anyone discuss this legislation. Maybe I’m in a bit of a bubble, but it didn’t even come up as an issue people cared about during the general election – and at the time, I was having conversations about politics nearly every day. It makes me wonder if too much weight is being given to the voices opposing this, especially since it seems to have caught the attention of foreign commentators online who don’t fully understand how Irish law works.
martywhelan699 on
Higher jail terms for crimes motivated by hatred. So what prisons are they going to put them in since there all full? It won’t be enforced
fwaig on
Not saying I agree with it or disagree with it. However, I think there are much more important issues at present to be dealt with e.g. Our capital city being an absolute hell-hole for one, our prisons being full to the brim so much so that suspended sentences are being handed out like smarties by the judiciary, sheer wanton lawlessness on the roads. Read the room, Minister.
padrot on
Worst Justice Minister in recent memory. Zero deterrent for dragged-up scum destroying Dublin.
Max-Battenberg on
Real finger on the pulse stuff here. That’ll stop the lawlessness and impunity with which the gangs operate under
chococheese419 on
this is perfectly fine and idk why people are mad? maybe people are mixing up hate crime and hate speech. No one said anything about the latter. It’s not hard to not assault people.
Anyways this will only be useful if they actually build prisons to put the offenders… otherwise it’s just de-facto legal like every other crime
Cushiemushy on
Smoke and mirrors as usual.. She didn’t get her hate speech bill through – which is the obvious main play so we go half by half, half now when everyone’s busy (when’s the last time them c***s done work over Christmas they hardly bother to show up to vote) and then when there’s not too much pushback we get the real deal.
All aimed at policing the internet and making it very difficult for groups who dissent to assemble online or without surveillance and being subject to the regulations of the government they are protesting. Breaking the will of the people to resist. It’s a genius play. They hate being called out in public and loosing face more than anything. Egos like children. It’s literally that simple. No global conspiracy needed.
DazzlingGovernment68 on
Read the article. This isn’t the incitement to hatred legislation that was freaking out so many people.
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Loud_Glove6833 on
All the while people are being beaten unconscious and mugged daily in our city centre with fuck all Garda presence.
No-Dimension9500 on
As with everything in Ireland, it doesn’t matter because it won’t be enforced.
It’s like worrying about speeding laws in rural Ireland. There are no laws.
PsvfanIre on
Fuck the DUP.
Beamrules on
Is it *really* that hard to build a new prison? Am I being dumb or can someone play devil’s advocate and tell me why we can’t just build a new prison.
bobbyperu1971 on
We can’t even enforce the laws we do have
NoTeaNoWin on
X far right: Mcentee is the worst minister of justice ever.
Reddit far left: Mcentee is the worst minister of Justice ever
Real life: Mcentee top of the poll in the GE
There is some dissonance alright
pah2602 on
Apparently this is the beginning of the end
BigPapaSmurf7 on
I don’t think people should be egits, but I also don’t think being an egit should be illegal. This is a terrible day for our island in my humble opinion.
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“and is widely supported by the public” fucking what?? Not the irish public. What public supported this?
Once this passes and the public immediately stops caring because the Internet hysteria dies, it’ll make a clear case for the expanded hate speech laws that have been worked on.
If you’re upset about being punished for a hate crime, don’t commit hate crimes.
Freedom of speech is not affected, you just face harsher consequences for being racist, homophobic or transphobic publicly.
That’s a good thing.
Do I have time to get indoors before the sky falls?
A good start to 2025!
Can I still say Meath are shite ?
People who are against the hate speech law. Can any of you give examples of things you or anyone else may say that would cause them to break that law or get a conviction?
Cool. Build a new prison and recruit more Gardaí please. Although I think this is all she’s really capable of unfortunately.
Surely in the running for the worst Justice minister ever.
Is there any legal TLDR?
Do these laws just punish people for existing laws but enhance the punishment if it’s motivated by hatred?
Or is their new laws for speech? i.e if I called someone a racial slur, is that in itself now punishable without any other factors?
This could be the beginning of a slippery slope into authoritarianism
Other than online, I’ve never heard anyone discuss this legislation. Maybe I’m in a bit of a bubble, but it didn’t even come up as an issue people cared about during the general election – and at the time, I was having conversations about politics nearly every day. It makes me wonder if too much weight is being given to the voices opposing this, especially since it seems to have caught the attention of foreign commentators online who don’t fully understand how Irish law works.
Higher jail terms for crimes motivated by hatred. So what prisons are they going to put them in since there all full? It won’t be enforced
Not saying I agree with it or disagree with it. However, I think there are much more important issues at present to be dealt with e.g. Our capital city being an absolute hell-hole for one, our prisons being full to the brim so much so that suspended sentences are being handed out like smarties by the judiciary, sheer wanton lawlessness on the roads. Read the room, Minister.
Worst Justice Minister in recent memory. Zero deterrent for dragged-up scum destroying Dublin.
Real finger on the pulse stuff here. That’ll stop the lawlessness and impunity with which the gangs operate under
this is perfectly fine and idk why people are mad? maybe people are mixing up hate crime and hate speech. No one said anything about the latter. It’s not hard to not assault people.
Anyways this will only be useful if they actually build prisons to put the offenders… otherwise it’s just de-facto legal like every other crime
Smoke and mirrors as usual.. She didn’t get her hate speech bill through – which is the obvious main play so we go half by half, half now when everyone’s busy (when’s the last time them c***s done work over Christmas they hardly bother to show up to vote) and then when there’s not too much pushback we get the real deal.
All aimed at policing the internet and making it very difficult for groups who dissent to assemble online or without surveillance and being subject to the regulations of the government they are protesting. Breaking the will of the people to resist. It’s a genius play. They hate being called out in public and loosing face more than anything. Egos like children. It’s literally that simple. No global conspiracy needed.
Read the article. This isn’t the incitement to hatred legislation that was freaking out so many people.
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All the while people are being beaten unconscious and mugged daily in our city centre with fuck all Garda presence.
As with everything in Ireland, it doesn’t matter because it won’t be enforced.
It’s like worrying about speeding laws in rural Ireland. There are no laws.
Fuck the DUP.
Is it *really* that hard to build a new prison? Am I being dumb or can someone play devil’s advocate and tell me why we can’t just build a new prison.
We can’t even enforce the laws we do have
X far right: Mcentee is the worst minister of justice ever.
Reddit far left: Mcentee is the worst minister of Justice ever
Real life: Mcentee top of the poll in the GE
There is some dissonance alright
Apparently this is the beginning of the end
I don’t think people should be egits, but I also don’t think being an egit should be illegal. This is a terrible day for our island in my humble opinion.