„Das Schlimmste, was es je gab“: Lehrer kritisieren die Krise in Englands Schulen | Schulen

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/dec/23/the-worst-its-ever-been-teachers-decry-send-crisis-in-englands-schools

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  1. High-Tom-Titty on

    No doubt it’s got worse, but I also think they tended to ignore it/deal with it in different ways in the past. I remember going for special classes for my dyslexia early primary school, and that’s it. It was ignored through the rest of my schooling. Still a terrible speller, and get certain letters mixed up. Especially lowercase b and d.

  2. demolition_lvr on

    I’ve been a teacher for 14 years.

    When I started, you would have about 10 kids in a year group on the SEND register, now it’s about 70.

    Yes, funding in schools isn’t great. But you also can’t ignore that we’ve seen an explosion in diagnoses. One of the things we’ve seen is a massive rise in private assessments where pretty much every one who has one is told they have some kind of need. And, unfortunately, what we’re also seeing is a lot of kids who really need support missing out on it because too much attention is going towards very demanding parents who are insisting on disproportionate support for the very minor – and questionable – needs of their children.

  3. Nothingdoing079 on

    4 years

    That’s how long my son has been waiting for an appointment to discuss our concerns that he might have ADHD and Autism. 

    Not to do a diagnosis but to have a discussion to then arrange for a clinical assessment (which is needed if you then want to get support in schools)

    In the meantime we have ended up going private and paying for the assessment (well over £3,000) and had a diagnosis. We are fortunate that we could afford it and pay for it, but if we didn’t have that ability we would still be waiting

    We still can’t get official support though, as the assessment we did is apparently not recognised by the council and we have to have the NHS one to qualify. We do get great support from teachers and the school on having reasonable adjustments to help regulate and manage change etc which has helped massively.

  4. AnotherKTa on

    > The number of children and young people entitled to government support in the form of education, health and care plans [EHCPs] is due to double to 1 million within a decade

    Given that a lot of this is blamed on the fallout from covid, it’ll be very interesting to see what happens over the decade. Is it just a single generation that’s going to have far more issues, and then things returning back to something like the pre-covid levels, or is this a fundamental shift that won’t reverse? Because if so, that’s going to require a completely rethink of our education system – having over 10% of kids with EHCPs sounds completely unworkable.

    I guess we’ll see in a few years when the first post-covid kids start school.

  5. Estimated-Delivery on

    Somebody should just do the maths and work out how much each child needs, budgeting for future needs, and then dole it out. The parents of these children understand best what’s required and should be given the cash directly with no oversight and more when they need it. Increase taxes on everybody to help pay for it, especially the rich who can buy their houses and have cars. If every pound not spent on other vital services isn’t used for these children then this country clearly doesn’t care.

  6. cavershamox on

    The over diagnosis is wild

    Too many companies are making too much money out of assessments and consultancy

    Too many schools present their results internally “excluding SEND and EHCPs”

    Too many parents push for a diagnosis for any under attainment or behaviour issues

    The children who genuinely need extra support are being missed because of this culture

  7. Academic_Rip_8908 on

    I worked as a teacher for a few years, and honestly I found it shocking how we’re going through this crisis of over diagnosis.

    Suddenly, every child that is naughty, or lazy, or not engaged, must have something wrong with them that can be diagnosed.

    It fosters a culture of learned helplessness, where bad parents can blame their child’s behaviour on a private diagnosis.

    “Well you see Little Jimmy can’t write anything, or pay attention, or stop swearing and hurling abuse, because he has ADHD”

    I feel sorry for the children who genuinely have SEND needs, currently not being met, because the system is overwhelmed with so many false diagnoses.

  8. SlyRax_1066 on

    The elephant in the room is – beyond a certain point – a mental health issue makes employment impossible, which makes traditional schooling pointless.

    Friend has two autistic kids that, while highly intelligent, are so single minded you can’t really get them to do anything new. So, people that won’t follow instructions – what job could they get? If the parents can’t – or won’t – put in the hours, what’s any teacher going to achieve?

    The country needs to make the hard choices that some people won’t benefit from school and actually hurt the education of those that might benefit.

    We’re never going to have 1:1 care so maybe some of these children should have facilities that are more about keeping them safe and happy than actually trying to teach, or even fix. 

    If someone had no arms, we wouldn’t focus on piano lessons.

  9. limaconnect77 on

    It’s largely as a result of negligent/uneducated parents/guardians getting private assessments regarding this stuff.

    These ‘services’ – they’re businesses trying to sell stuff (no different to YT ads pushing the latest model phone or TV).

    Obviously and unfortunately there’s a massive market for it these days. The social media space is now full of full-grown adults (with tertiary education) ‘advertising’ they’ve got this or that particular need just because he/she read a particular MDWiki article.

    It always comes down to people jumping to conclusions about their own health/wellbeing.

  10. I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face, this is not a school crisis, it’s a parenting crisis.

    I worked in secondary schools for a decade and recently left – **this was a problem before COVID** – it’s a lack of discipline, accountability and empathy from parents.

    Not all parents of course, but what it’s boiling down to is shit parents who can’t face the failure of their kid being a fucking nightmare, so has to push for SEND support.

    It devastated me how much time I spent fighting fires, because a lad with undiagnosed ADHD was squaring up to his teacher or a child with undiagnosed ASD locked themselves in the toilet for hours at a time causing huge safeguarding issues, whilst children with diagnosed SEND had to wait their turn.

    And by undiagnosed, I mean they didn’t have either neurodivergence, but their dickhead parents would do nothing on their side but push it on us to “get him an EHCP” as if they just give them out to anyone on the spot.

  11. It is a massive crisis with no obvious solution. Chucking more money at it has no guarantees of success. But it is a big worry for 15/20 years time when this generation of kids will be expected to be in workforce paying taxes for the ever increasing number of pensioners. You can just imagine the number of those on benefits due to being unable to work because of mental health issues will just keep going up and up along with the number of pensioners while the squeezed middle will just be squeezed harder and harder.

    Hopefully something happens and things improve as if it carries on like then society will breakdown at some point.

  12. BeardyRamblinGames on

    Schools have always been able to ‘pick and choose’ their students to some extent.

    When I first started teaching 17 years ago our school had the SEN kids from affluent areas sent to us en masse. They didn’t want them to ruin their league tables.

    Now we have the academy system. So those schools are more empowered than ever to shape a bubble of success at the expense of everyone around them. Also while dragging salaries higher than the prime minister for the executive heads.

  13. OutlandishnessWide33 on

    Theres loads of parents coming it to recieve extra benefits, claiming their darling child has this and that when basically, they are just being a little shite because the parents cant be arsed to raise them properly.

  14. pleasegetonwithit on

    My school has had an explosion in numbers. In our case, it certainly isn’t over diagnosis. Some are non-verbal, and there are none that I’d say aren’t actually SEND. They have BIG needs and there are loads of them and every year coming up has more. I don’t know how we’ll manage. A lot falls on our teaching assistants , but they get bitten and head butted, so I don’t know how we’ll keep them.

  15. Old-Buffalo-5151 on

    Iv had to get my son privately assessed because the system here is now so broken he will hit secondary school before he gets help

    Its deeply frustrating my family have actively discussed leaving the country for the sake of kids at this point because my tech skills are in demand.

    He is not struggling enough yet for us to leave but if doesn’t get help next year after his assessment we won’t have a choice.

    His verbal skills are that of a 3, year old but everything is where it should be or ahead dude just needs a bit of extra help and its just not available its deeply frustrating

  16. mincepryshkin- on

    Kudos to the Guardian for interviewing someone who is willing to address one of the more uncomfortable factors – a large part of the crisis is a result of pushy middle class parents trying to get their kids an extra leg-up through added exam time and support.

    Kids in private schools are diagnosed with conditions requiring such support at a hugely increased rate compared to children in state schools – when statistics regarding deprivation and learning difficulties would suggest the trend should be the complete opposite.

    Middle class professionals know how to get the results they want out of the educational and health care systems, and have figured out that there is a range of basically unfalsifiable diagnoses available, which you can get for any kid with enough of an effort.

  17. StationFar6396 on

    Year 7, 8 and 9 in schools in my area are completely full now because of private school kids being registered, many of them with SEND needs.

  18. Working_Cut743 on

    It isn’t helped when the SEND teams are totally incompetent, busy-bodies who thought that they could carve out a little fiefdom for themselves instead of working.

    Shitty FOMO families who feel entitled to some labels, and shittier bureaucrats running it. As always, the genuine needy lose.

  19. I think there’s a few of things going on here.

    1) Both ADHD and ASD are very real diagnoses that can cause children who have them to have very real issues in mainstream schools. Some students with these diagnoses will cope better than others, due to various factors.
    2) An increase in diagnoses can partly be explained by greater awareness and shrinking stigma, especially amongst young girls.
    3) An increase in diagnoses can partly be explained by private companies interested in making money and parents looking for a way to justify why their child is a little shit.

    It’s a shame that this culture of medicalising poor behaviour is harming children with genuine special educational needs.

  20. I went to a SEND school because of ADHD and booting off all the time at school. Was a massive struggle to get me there, but saved my education frankly, though looking back I’m not sure I needed it that much, but obviously I’m being flippant, it’s just that my career requires no qualifications.

    Now I’d be utterly fucked, having to fight it out, quite literally, in mainstream and likely being booted out permanently by Year 8. I cannot imagine how bad it must be for kids these days, and given ADHD and the like is likely hereditary, it is putting me off having kids.

  21. Kupo-Moogle on

    I’m so glad I left education.

    SLT not giving a shit about children or their needs because their shirt is untucked.

    Children with actual additional needs being swept under the carpet because they don’t have an EHCP when they definitely need one.

    Why don’t children who require an EHCP not have one?

    Because it’s absolutely backlogged.

    Why is it backlogged?

    Because parents of shitty, spoiled children who can’t behave are immediately slapped with an ADHD or Autism diagnosis (by their parents using Google not the professionals) and clog up the system with “diagnose my child because I can’t admit I can’t raise a child”.

    Sick of people going “we just have a better understanding…” bollocks.

    90% of children don’t have fucking ADHD or Autism. Fuck off. Timmy is just a shit.

    If your EHCP is rejected it’s because a panel with a combined professional experience and expertise of decades says “your child isn’t additional needs. You just need to be a better parent”. Swallow the hard pill.

    It’s absolutely damaging to a criminal level in my opinion that children with additional needs who absolutely should have an EHCP but don’t, meaning they’re not getting the required support in school, are falling through the cracks and struggling because of stupid shitty parents who can’t control their child just use “our Kasey has ADHD I’m getting her tested” because she won’t go to bed when you tell her to.

  22. Cool_Delivery5349 on

    I grew up in the early 00’s and there was next to no diagnosis or help in my particular school and local area (I appreciate the UK varies per district let alone country). 

    There’s no denying that there were kids at my school who needed additional help and ultimately failed, on the flip side I do now think we are veering into additional needs almost becoming trendy and as such we are seeing over diagnosis. 

    However my question is what happens to SEND kids when they enter the work place? Do employers make adjustments or are they just left to it – I work for a very small company so it’s not something I’ve ever encountered. 

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