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There is something peak satire about an alarmist article on migration being authored by **Eir Nolsøe** (who is Faroese) and which buries this right at the end of the article
> Stephen Millard at the National Institute of Economic and Social Research said the downbeat figures pointed to a longer-running problem unrelated to migration.
> He said: “The big issue here is that productivity is so poor. Because we’re not achieving productivity growth, each additional worker is not able to produce more.
> “As a result, GDP per head has not really grown in several years. It’s something that’s been happening for a long time, at least since the financial crisis.”
That’s where we are: hiring migrants to write fluff nothing articles about how migration is making the productivity stats appear worse whilst not really exploring the real issue of poor productivity.
> Sir Keir Starmer has made improving people’s living standards one of his key milestones for this parliament, meaning any falls in GDP per head and real household disposable income (RDHI) per person are highly damaging to the Prime Minister.
The trick the Tories pull is just not trying to improve living standards.
|Quarter|[real GDP CVSME](https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/timeseries/mwb6/ukea)|
|:-|:-|
|Q3 2023|£7,857|
|Q4 2023|£7,802|
|Q1 2024|£7,839|
|Q2 2024|£7,844|
|Q3 2024|£7,825|
|**Added for fun: 2008 Q1**|£7,634|
|**2006 Q1 too:**|£7,425|
|Group|[Unemployment Rate % Q3](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123370/unemployment-rate-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/)|
|:-|:-|
|White|3.6%|
|Indian|5%|
|Chinese|5.5%|
|Black/African/Caribbean/Black British|8%|
|Bangladesh|8.3%|
|Other|9%|
|Pakistan|10.2%|
|Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups|13.9%|
I say this a a child of an immigrant, too, so that we can shape better immigration policy in the future:
Real GDP/Capita per quarter is nearly the same as 2008 almost 16 years later & unemployment rates are very high for immigration groups (many factors for this), but it will have had some effects on our productivity per person, in my opinion.
Lmfao the Telegraph has been championing every single other policy that’s ever negatively affected living standards in this country.
The pie is the same size. But more people means a smaller slice for everyone
It is easy to point fingers at immigrants when times are hard, but doing so ignores the real picture. Immigrants are not causing inequality or hoarding wealth. They are often working alongside everyone else, contributing to society and facing the same struggles. The real issue lies in asking who benefits from the current system.
Immigrants and Their Role in Society
Immigrants do not take jobs or drain resources. They play a vital role in keeping the country functioning.
Essential Workers
Immigrants are integral to many industries. In the UK, 14 percent of the workforce is foreign-born, including 38 percent of doctors and 16 percent of nurses in the NHS (Migration Observatory, 2023). Many also work in physically demanding sectors such as agriculture, logistics, and construction, roles that are often undervalued.
Economic Contributions
Data shows that immigrants contribute more in taxes than they take in benefits. Between 2001 and 2011, migrants added a net £25 billion to public finances (UCL Centre for Research and Analysis of Migration). This revenue supports essential public services relied upon by everyone.
Addressing an Ageing Population
With the UK birth rate at 1.58 children per woman (ONS, 2023), far below the replacement level of 2.1, there are fewer young people to support an increasing number of retirees. Immigrants help maintain the working-age population, ensuring the economy and public services remain sustainable.
The Real Issues: Inequality and Exploitation
Blaming immigrants only serves to distract from the real culprits, including systemic inequality, corporate greed, and failures in policy.
Corporate Tax Avoidance
Companies such as Amazon generated £23 billion in revenue in the UK in 2021 but paid only £3.8 million in taxes (Fair Tax Foundation). Many multinationals exploit loopholes to avoid their tax responsibilities, leaving ordinary workers to bear the burden.
Wage Suppression
Despite record profits, essential workers in sectors such as care and logistics are often paid below the real living wage of £12.30 per hour (Living Wage Foundation, 2023). This is not a result of immigration but a consequence of systemic exploitation by corporations.
Bailouts for the Wealthy
Banks and corporations frequently receive massive bailouts during crises while ordinary people face austerity measures. After the 2008 financial crash, UK banks were propped up with £137 billion, yet ordinary workers saw stagnant wages and job losses. At the same time, the wealthiest one percent now control nearly 40 percent of the UK’s wealth (Credit Suisse, 2023).
A Fairer Perspective
Immigrants are not driving inequality. The problem lies in a system that prioritises profit for the few over fairness for the many. Consider this:
The delivery driver bringing parcels to your doorstep, the nurse caring for your loved ones, and the farmworker harvesting food are often immigrants. They work hard in the same challenging conditions as everyone else.
Without immigration, who will fill these roles in an ageing society? Countries such as Japan, with low birth rates and restrictive immigration policies, face economic stagnation and population decline, a warning sign for the UK (World Bank, 2023).
Shifting the Focus
Blaming immigrants divides communities and lets those responsible for inequality off the hook. Instead, we should ask questions that matter:
Are corporations paying fair wages and taxes?
Why are public services underfunded while billionaires grow richer?
How can we create a fairer system that benefits everyone, not just the wealthiest one percent?
Immigrants are not the enemy. They are part of the solution. It is time to challenge the narrative and focus on building a society that works for all of us.
Errrr a drop in living standards is caused by being outside the single market and customs union.
It’s incredible that exiting the EU is – still – not seen as the biggest contributor to the current state of the UK.
“Then the OBR models the fiscal profile of a “low-wage migrant worker”, on 50 per cent less than the UK average. This migrant is a net fiscal drain from the moment they enter the country. By the time they reach 81, they will have cost the taxpayer £465,000.
A recent Centre for Policy Studies report looked at how many visas were issued in 2022-23 for different job types on skilled worker routes and compared them with the salary data for those occupations.
This analysis suggested that around 72 per cent were likely to be earning less than the average UK salary. Fully 54 per cent were probably on just half of the average salary – the OBR’s “low-wage migrant”. Given another chunk were likely on around 40 per cent of the average salary, it appears that roughly three-fifths of workers on skilled worker visas are destined to be net recipients.”
[https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britain-pay-costs-low-skilled-120000172.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAdfbrI-rPVIvaifHxL3XdEpc6kWwzZU2xRF7jxrZf-2aPGn7Vuxa3Uu9p5xTZOT6U3uoWBgoT2XkdsnaMkCW0o2nz-6ImxxEuCiLEHZNCgmCcvnTYK6jvPNkGVbbYetuQnrlxh5K9kWJ4aKaVsUT_B5mUUmICweYAR45oQk5iBu](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britain-pay-costs-low-skilled-120000172.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAdfbrI-rPVIvaifHxL3XdEpc6kWwzZU2xRF7jxrZf-2aPGn7Vuxa3Uu9p5xTZOT6U3uoWBgoT2XkdsnaMkCW0o2nz-6ImxxEuCiLEHZNCgmCcvnTYK6jvPNkGVbbYetuQnrlxh5K9kWJ4aKaVsUT_B5mUUmICweYAR45oQk5iBu)
There’s your problem.
You don’t say??
How many are claiming benefits or committing crimes…let’s see those stats released…..