Hallo, ich habe gerade diesen Beitrag auf Facebook gesehen. Der Typ fängt an, Geldscheine auf die Klinge eines Schwertes zu legen. Ich bin nur neugierig, worum es geht.
Really stupid “tradition” imo. It’s not exclusively an Armenian thing, I’ve seen in happen in other countries in the region. Basically the groom has to pay the bride’s brother or whatever and keep giving him money until he agrees to give away the bride.
I honestly don’t get the point. Very trashy and backwards tradition.
HighAxper on
Paying off the brother of the bride so he allows the groom’s family to take her. No idea why anyone involved in this would enjoy the humiliating experience but yeah.
Afghan_Bvll on
Afghans do this too, we have some weird sword dance where the wife’s sister has to dance and get money from the groom. I refused to participate, it feels very denigrating.
Constant_Aardvark_61 on
I remember buying myself an xbox 360 thanks to this tradition
T-nash on
Basically objectification of women “as a joke”. Insane that the marrying woman’s brother takes part in objectifying their own sister.
SunnyRyter on
Honestly, I don’t remember seeing this tradition at weddings when I was a kid (and I went to many). But seems to be the “new thing”. Someone did it, and then it kept going?
What used to happen is the groom’s family visited the brides with gifts and presents and do a “dance”, with a live band troupe, as kinda “bribes” or “dowry gifts” and the best man kinda as the intermediary on behalf of tje groom. “Axhchik oozel”. Then finally once the bride/ bride family was “satisfied”, she would come down the stairs (because of course, they are getting married).
Harkens to old traditions that many nations used to have, as others said, of “bride price” (like giving two cows for a bride, or something).
Edit to add: yes, there is even a “shoe” dance. The Maid of Honor (a woman from the groom’s side) brings the bridal “shoe” and a representative from the bride’s side has her other “shoe”… they dance saying kinda, “hey, do you think these two go together? Are the a match?” (Symbolizing the bride and groom being a matching pair). Video of an example of it here:
Eh – dowries and other things are all over the world. You can look at it as “buying a bride” or objectification; on the other hand you can look at it as the groom showing he has the ability to give his new spouse a good life – and in many cultures the bride’s family pays for the wedding so the groom is in a sense just paying some of it back.
Secret-Ad3810 on
It’s not an Armenian tradition, rather adopted from other cultures and has become more prevalent in recent decades. Similar to money tossed in the air at weddings.
Big-Professional1578 on
Coming from an Armenian woman, this is not objectifying or embarrassing. I can’t wait for this and many of the other amazing traditions to take place at my wedding.
This entire process of the morning tradition is very sacred for the bride’s family. They are giving away their daughter and with it comes ceremonial acts like the mom and sister helping the bride get ready in her room for the last time, someone stealing the bride’s shoe so she can’t leave, the brother or other male figure placing the knife at the door to protect his sister. The money being placed on the sword isn’t to buy the bride, it’s to make sure that the groom can provide for their daughter. In present day, the majority of the time the money is given back. It’s just ceremonial.
Please stop disrespecting Armenian culture and traditions especially if you don’t understand their significance.
Top_Recognition_1775 on
Depending on culture and who is paying for the wedding, if the bride’s parents are paying then the bride price is to defray that. If the groom is paying then the bride’s parents pay him a dowry.
Nowadays it’s done via check, but some people do a playful thing with a sword.
It’s not specifically “Armenian.”
In the old days the whole village would show up at the bride’s house with a donkey to carry her to church.
Nowadays we don’t use donkeys, we use G Wagons.
spetcnaz on
For a sec I thought that’s Anthony Hopkins
Thatoneguyonreddit28 on
Fun to share! This is still an ongoing tradition where I’m from and one which I profusely expressed that I did not want at my wedding. However I do not trust my fiancé’s family to respect my decision. So my best man’s gift was a a pretty sizeable amount of money for him to make a decision.
He can either use this money to pay the the guy who would try this, or he can use it to purchase a very nice gun for him to reveal from his belt to say that we’re not paying and get out of our way.
anniewho315 on
I don’t care for this
7ayalla on
A really stupid thing we did not want at our wedding. It’s basically another method of showing off…look how much money I have and don’t care about giving away…Alternatively can cause fights between families at weddings. The guy asking for the money at the door can keep saying more and more until the best man gets pissed and says enough.
Besides the whole denigrating the bride and their family thing, just another stupid “tradition” that needs to go away.
Material_Alps881 on
They even throw around real money during dancing don’t know who it’s meant for but tye little kids always collect it
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Really stupid “tradition” imo. It’s not exclusively an Armenian thing, I’ve seen in happen in other countries in the region. Basically the groom has to pay the bride’s brother or whatever and keep giving him money until he agrees to give away the bride.
I honestly don’t get the point. Very trashy and backwards tradition.
Paying off the brother of the bride so he allows the groom’s family to take her. No idea why anyone involved in this would enjoy the humiliating experience but yeah.
Afghans do this too, we have some weird sword dance where the wife’s sister has to dance and get money from the groom. I refused to participate, it feels very denigrating.
I remember buying myself an xbox 360 thanks to this tradition
Basically objectification of women “as a joke”. Insane that the marrying woman’s brother takes part in objectifying their own sister.
Honestly, I don’t remember seeing this tradition at weddings when I was a kid (and I went to many). But seems to be the “new thing”. Someone did it, and then it kept going?
What used to happen is the groom’s family visited the brides with gifts and presents and do a “dance”, with a live band troupe, as kinda “bribes” or “dowry gifts” and the best man kinda as the intermediary on behalf of tje groom. “Axhchik oozel”. Then finally once the bride/ bride family was “satisfied”, she would come down the stairs (because of course, they are getting married).
Harkens to old traditions that many nations used to have, as others said, of “bride price” (like giving two cows for a bride, or something).
Edit to add: yes, there is even a “shoe” dance. The Maid of Honor (a woman from the groom’s side) brings the bridal “shoe” and a representative from the bride’s side has her other “shoe”… they dance saying kinda, “hey, do you think these two go together? Are the a match?” (Symbolizing the bride and groom being a matching pair). Video of an example of it here:
https://youtube.com/shorts/fNapRmZjtM4?si=dCGco4Lh4mT1F4Hu
Eh – dowries and other things are all over the world. You can look at it as “buying a bride” or objectification; on the other hand you can look at it as the groom showing he has the ability to give his new spouse a good life – and in many cultures the bride’s family pays for the wedding so the groom is in a sense just paying some of it back.
It’s not an Armenian tradition, rather adopted from other cultures and has become more prevalent in recent decades. Similar to money tossed in the air at weddings.
Coming from an Armenian woman, this is not objectifying or embarrassing. I can’t wait for this and many of the other amazing traditions to take place at my wedding.
This entire process of the morning tradition is very sacred for the bride’s family. They are giving away their daughter and with it comes ceremonial acts like the mom and sister helping the bride get ready in her room for the last time, someone stealing the bride’s shoe so she can’t leave, the brother or other male figure placing the knife at the door to protect his sister. The money being placed on the sword isn’t to buy the bride, it’s to make sure that the groom can provide for their daughter. In present day, the majority of the time the money is given back. It’s just ceremonial.
Please stop disrespecting Armenian culture and traditions especially if you don’t understand their significance.
Depending on culture and who is paying for the wedding, if the bride’s parents are paying then the bride price is to defray that. If the groom is paying then the bride’s parents pay him a dowry.
Nowadays it’s done via check, but some people do a playful thing with a sword.
It’s not specifically “Armenian.”
In the old days the whole village would show up at the bride’s house with a donkey to carry her to church.
Nowadays we don’t use donkeys, we use G Wagons.
For a sec I thought that’s Anthony Hopkins
Fun to share! This is still an ongoing tradition where I’m from and one which I profusely expressed that I did not want at my wedding. However I do not trust my fiancé’s family to respect my decision. So my best man’s gift was a a pretty sizeable amount of money for him to make a decision.
He can either use this money to pay the the guy who would try this, or he can use it to purchase a very nice gun for him to reveal from his belt to say that we’re not paying and get out of our way.
I don’t care for this
A really stupid thing we did not want at our wedding. It’s basically another method of showing off…look how much money I have and don’t care about giving away…Alternatively can cause fights between families at weddings. The guy asking for the money at the door can keep saying more and more until the best man gets pissed and says enough.
Besides the whole denigrating the bride and their family thing, just another stupid “tradition” that needs to go away.
They even throw around real money during dancing don’t know who it’s meant for but tye little kids always collect it