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17 Comments
Genuine question but what does the long term look for Ukraine especially under a Trump presidency. Seems like there’s gonna be some sort of stalemate as Trump wants to limit weapons.
Yes, and hopefully Ukraine will not foolishly squander resources trying to hold on to territory that it doesn’t have a real chance of holding. What’s far more interesting and relevant to this exercise than the territory is that Ukraine has been able to hold on to it for months now and Russia is requiring outside assistance to take it back. Unlike Russia’s excursions in to Ukraine, Russia even under their own laws should have been able to use all security resources available to take back the Kursk oblast.
Headline could also read that after months of repeated assaults Russia has only been able to reclaim %40 percent of the territory, lost in the Kursk incursion
Translation: Ukraine still occupies Russian territory. You’re dead Putin
Putin’s claim to Russians is that he was forced into this conflict….. yet the reality is that he is so sure Ukraine and NATO are not a threat that he left 1000s of kms of border with this enemy unguarded. Whatever the outcome of Kursk, we will always look back on the reality it exposes, that the ludicrous asymmetry of this war, where Putin can attack, annex, fire missile after missile without any expectation of return or consequence is perpetuated by the West’s desire to avoid escalation.
Now, having been the only people fighting and dying in the proxy conflict where the future of democracy is at stake, Ukraine must hold onto Kursk as a sort of bargaining chip so that after January, when it become a matter of US and Russian oligarchs wanking each other off, there is something they can ask for in exchange.
Europe has to step in, has to decide if they can accept whatever stupid situation Trump brings about.
They are close to being encircled. The probaly should get out of there and try to stop Russia’s rapid gains in eastern Ukraine now.
It was a bargaining chip anyway nothing more
The offensive wasn’t to take territory. It was to stop the buildup of forces on the boarder and hit before they invaded from another angle again.
Trump will negotiate another masterful agreement (like Doha) which means that Ukraine will be sold down the river to Russia. Other former Soviet republics soon to follow
The outcome of this “special military operation” would have looked so much different had the U.S. and our allies not forced Ukrainians to fight with both arms tied behind their backs and hopping on one foot!
Time to take Transnistria, it is a safe catch, poorly guarded and you will do Moldova a favor.
Ukraine still holds more than 60 percent of the
potential alternate headline…”Ukraine retains 60% of Kursk territory despite Russia’s numerous attempts to retake it, and Russia has even resorted to importing troops from North Korea”
# Ukraine has kept over 50% of the territory previously gained in Kursk incursion, Reuters reports.
There you go, I fixed the title.
# Without any surprise, Russia is still the 2nd best army in russia.
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The number of forces they have tied up for the Russians and casualties inflicted on Russian soil is staggering, I think the western front would be looking very different if not the Kursk offensive.
P.S. Whatever seems to be the popular opinion here (and on Reddit in general) is often quite the opposite in the real world.
After all casualties russia managed to regain only 40% of Kursk territory? :-O
Holly hell, they are uncapable AF.