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26 Comments
Let’s hope he’s wrong.
This is exactly the right thing to say. It isn’t WWIII (of course) but it is time to take over the narrative of fear.
Russia has been threatening it for years, now let’s start ourselves. Now that we are using Western missiles in Russia, Russia and China have a lot more to lose from this kind of fear mongering. Their economies are already on the brink.
Also, the more it is regarded as China and Russia vs the world, the more Trump is likely to support Ukraine.
With all due respect to Zalushnyj, typically the definition of a World War is, that there is fighting occuring on atleast some of the world’s continents, not necessarily all of them, but definitely more than one.
WW2 for example in truth was “only” a major European War until one could argue Italy entered the war in 1940, since that expanded the war onto African with fighting in North Africa and the Mediterranean Sea. Some argue even, that WW2 only became truly a world war, when Japan attacked the USA and Nazi Germany and Italy subsequently declared war on the US alongside Japan.
At best, if someone wants to drag in fighting on the seas into the definition, only then WW2 would be truly a world war from the start, since German Convoi Raiders were also active in the Atlantic and even in the South Atlantic in 1939.
Anyway, coming back to present day, the fighting is limited to Ukraine, Russia and the Black Sea so far. That’s all in Europe and, compared to the total land mass of the Earth, a rather small part of it.
And so far only Ukraine, Russia and now North Korea are officially in open conflict with each other, since the Norks present are real soldiers of North Korea and not some mercs on their own private initiative.
One can legitimately call it a proxy war, since the many western powers are supporting Ukraine, while anti-western powers like Red China, Iran, some 3rd world mercs and anti-western nations like Venezuela, Cuba etc. are supporting Russia and now North Korea is fighting alongside Russia, but before that they also supported Russia with masses of ammo.
If this war would turn into WW3, then, with all due respect, Ukraine would be degraded to a small part of it, because then we would see fithing happen alongside the entire NATO Eastern Border with Russia, fighting would happen in the Pacific, because Red China would surely exploit the opportunity to attack Taiwan and North Korea to attack South Korea.
And in the Middle East, fighting would break out too, probably between Israel and Iran at the very least, maybe the Saudis would go in too against Iran and the proxys would be dragged in too.
Then we would have a true 3rd World War on our hands. But this is not what we see, luckily.
So the Ukraine War is as of yet “only” a Ukraine War and not WW3.
>World War III has officially begun
This has been said hundreds of times for nearly 3 years now. Some people seem desperate for it to happen.
Cold War II
I agree, it’s like a slow smoldering fire getting ready to ignite into a giant inferno. Opponents of the current rules-based order will keep pushing the limits, and those in favor will continue to back away, albeit slowly & grudgingly, until they finally stand their ground. Unfortunately sacrifices will be made, such as Poland & Czechoslovakia in WWII, it may be Ukraine & Taiwan in WWIII. It’s not as simple as the two opposing sides, though: where does the Islamic world fall in this? Traditionally Moslem nations have tended to be authoritarian, so that doesn’t bode well for the rest of the world.
just my .02¢
Did someone ring the bell?
What, again?
It began in 2008 when Russia took a chunk of Georgia and the world did nothing. The was Putin’s Anschluss moment. We then let him get away with Crimea in 2014. The dominos have been falling for a while and we were all asleep at the wheel.
Wait until we see what Uncle Sam has up his sleeve. It’s out of this world.
You can’t just declare WW3
Ok those who loves to poke the bear on reddit can sign up for military volunteers now, dont wait for your goverment to knock on your door and drag you for military training, action speaks louder than words, go now, yes you can
This isn’t World War III, it’s Cold War II. Putin using an ICBM, which has the capability of carrying a nuclear warhead but didn’t, is classic sabre-rattling. The ICBM was just a threat. Putin doesn’t want a World War because he knows that nobody wins a nuclear war.
If it has, it will be a short movie. Russia already bled itself dry in the prequel.
He want a better effort from allies, more motivation, because Ukraine’s situation is unjust.
He complained alot about the insuficient sanctions allowing Russia to continue the attrition (wiki bio).
If it, god forbid, happens, then I, a German, am just happy that we weren’t the culprit this time.
“Officially begun”
So he is saying US, UE, Russia and/or China had officially declared war?
Of course not, there isnt WWIII and there isnt anything official, they keep saying this thing ever two weeks in the last decade, that’s getting tiring…. did these people forgot what a World War really is?
I wonder what side Trump will be on, he identifies as a dictator
„Ex“
The only thing left is to win it, I guess 🤷♂️
I know this is a harsh reality. But it is true. Let’s make a summary:
There are 6 major conflicts at the time and 18 other conflicts. All of the major conflicts have way more than 100.000 casualties, the majority of the “smaller” conflicts have more than 20.000 casualties.
In most of these conflicts are the super powers involved and are taking opposite sides.
Arms exports are rising, defence spending too.
Diplomatic tone is shifting to extremist levels.
A lot of refugees, the social inequality is on a new high since the breakdown of monarchies, extremists get a lot of support.
There are a lot of conflicts on the horizon to like china’s war for the yellow sea, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Turkey and Kurdistan, polland and the so called “Russian Federation”
There is more demand for ressources than our planet provides.
These are exactly the conditions wich lead to tge Great wars. I hope it doesn’t lead to another Worldwar, but it’s very, very, very likely.
How should we, the small civilians react to that? Well, just live your live like there is no tomorrow. Tell the people who you love that you love them every day, prepare yourself a food and Water stash in your home, also basic survival Gear and outdoor camping gear, try to move out of cities if its possible cause there will be the first hits if it really escalates, try to live your live in a meaningful and kind way. In the end, you have barely any controll over what’s going to happen soon if we all don’t calm the fuck down, but you can at least be aware that there is the possibility of a world war.
Splendid. Carry on.
Rather it starts now then earlier when putler was at full strength.
Russia is reaching a point in which they become more desperate when we see that they’re start using rockets that cost 50 million per piece.
Wont be long they’ll be stuffing up russian soldier into rockets holding basic grenades to be launched towards Ukraine. They’ll probably call that their latest advanced model aswell.
Calling it WW3 is kinda dumb because it really is a limited conflict in only one region. It is not remotely close to a total war.
The concept of World War 3 and a Trump presidency at the same time makes me nauseous. Need to get off the escalation ladder somehow
Well North Korea is still technically at war with UN.
So it’s not really WWIII until Iranian or Syrian are officially in Ukraine.
Or some US/UK/FR/POL boots are also on the front line.