Microsoft hat einen PC entwickelt, auf dem keine lokalen Apps ausgeführt werden können – Windows 365 Link kostet ab 349 US-Dollar und wird nicht mit Speicher geliefert
https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/mini-pcs/microsoft-built-a-pc-that-cant-run-local-apps-windows-365-link-starts-at-usd349-and-doesnt-come-with-storage#xenforo-comments-3860975
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don’t want this POS
Becoming more a dumb terminal than a personal computer, a PC.
The dream of being forced to completely rely on he amazing Microsoft cloud services. Every time excel tries to launch a browser window instead of the excel app I think “man this is convenient”.
It is a paperweight if the Internet is down. Too expensive at free.
So basically a Chromebook?
This isn’t a real thing. Tom’s Hardware is astroturf.
Note to self: Do not purchase Windows 365 Link.
Nothing new. Businesses have been using these for eons.
sounds about like chromebooks. Yeah, theyre cheap but mainly garbage.
Apple releases the best hardware value in years with the new base Mini and Microsoft responds with a physically similar product that’s basically a Fire Stick.
So it’s essentially an expensive streaming box. You could achieve the same thing on an old Android phone from 2019 and a simple USB C dock.
It’s not a PC, it’s an expensive thin client.
There’s still no point in buying it when you can get one of those cute lil’ mini PCs to access a remote virtual machine for the same price, but the title is intentionally misleading.
Does it come with an actual cloud though? Asking for a friend.
So we’ve come full circle back to mainframe computing v2.0. Better make sure solitaire is available LOCALLY for those times when you can’t boot the OS because _____.
So Igel?
This is for enterprise.
People are missing the point.
This is targeted at businesses and enterprise where their desktops are “Cloud PC” offerings. They’re just the newest thin clients and not intended for home use.
That is not a personal computer – it’s a network access point.
Maybe having it connected to a server for software used in universities. You know what I’m saying?
So they made a glorified dumb terminal. Even a Chromebook is some abomination of an idea, but this… This is outrageous!
Why not $365 tho?
ITT a bunch of home users that think this is in any way designed for them
Jesus people are negative and doesn’t seem to know why this exist and where it’s use case is…
Uses cases for this is for example: hospitals, retail staff for example Walmart etc. Where you might have multiple people using one Computer or offices etc.
Also for example when you bring in consultants and want to keep your data within your own walls, it’s easier and cheaper to supply them with this than a laptop costing 5x more.
So the norm?
My work place has been moving away from having remote employees VPN in to get their work done. We’ve been using cloud based workspaces that have a connection to our internal networks.
It’s a hell of a lot easier to manage and support than a user base that has local apps that need to be patched and updated that aren’t always online and connected to the VPN.
With no local applications and no data being stored locally if there’s a hardware failure you just need to replace the hardware and your user is instantly working again without needing to setup their desktop the way they like it, install the apps they use, or try to recover and migrate data.
The user at home can also get away with a lot less bandwidth than if they are doing their work with a VPN connected workstation. You aren’t pulling files to your local machine and pushing them back up to files servers over your Internet connection, you’re just moving the data for the remote desktop stream which is relatively light weight.
From a support, security, and disaster recovery perspective, using remote workspaces instead of local workstations has huge upsides.
I think they should either give it for free or include it in the cost of Microsoft 365 subscriptions since an active subscription is required.
It’s a $400 upfront subscription to windows
Should go well with our new enforced data caps.
With no local storage how are you supposed to install Steam? Windows machines are pretty worthless without it.
Glorified thin client that you can buy for under 200 used that can connect to 4 displays.
For example, HP T series think clients.
It make more sense if the 365 subscription is included
Glorified thin client that you can buy for under 200 used that can connect to 4 displays.
For example, HP T series think clients.
It make more sense if the 365 subscription is included
Windows RT 2.0 except even worse
Everyone saying this is stupid; it’s obviously not meant for you. It’s a neat piece of technology because of thin client and other installations.
Not gonna lie, this would be perfect for my folks and their business. They live half a country away and always call for tech support. Pops replaced 3-4 PCs in 6 years.
For a small business, this, basically VDI, is a great option.
That said you can get a cheaper alternative that runs RD Client and use VDI. So I guess I could’ve already done this but I’m just a lazy son.
Dad was right.
Fuck.
I don’t think this is meant for personal computing. This provides a means to access virtual PCs that can be changed without downtime (resources, patching, etc). The security infrastructure at corporations to support patch management, hardware, etc is enormous – Even moreso when the workforce is remote.
There are definitely scenarios where this is not only a cost-saver, but can improve performance.
Why not just buy an sbc for 100 or less?
It’s even worse than a damn phone, LMAO
I could see a strong business case for these but they are selling them wrong.
Really you dont sell the hardware.
Like commit to 3-5 years of 365 and azure service, and we throw in these endpoints free.
So… a thin client?
Lol fuck this.
So a dumb terminal?
Way to expensive for what it is.
Now if it was included in the subscription cost of windows 365 on a 2 year term I could see it gaining traction.
While windows 365 has its use cases it is still quite expensive for most companies.
You can get a great refurbished system for $349.
well then don’t buy it
So they built the hooli box for real?
First, buy a raspberry pi. Canakit has Pi 4 B kits for ~$100
Second, go discover WTWare
Third, replace your whole fleet of thin clients for stupid cheap