Trump strebt nach der Erstbürgerschaft – und stellt den Obersten Gerichtshof auf die Probe. Der gewählte Präsident hat die Streichung des Staatsbürgerschaftsschutzes des Vierzehnten Verfassungszusatzes ins Visier genommen. Der Oberste Gerichtshof könnte seinem Wunsch nachkommen.

What part of ”All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside” is unclear. The Supreme Court did make an exception for the children of diplomats born here but I don’t think there are other exceptions.

So is Barron getting deported?

I guess this means everyone born here, including Trump and his cronies, are up for removal of citizenship? Unless someone is 100% Native American they’re all children of immigrants!

This wont end well for anyone

Very unchristian of you

The Supreme Court will do as they’re told by Trump

If this happens it will completely delegitimize SCOTUS. Conservative Justices are by self designation strict construction literalists following in the footsteps of the late Justice Antonin Scalia. There’s literally no ambiguity to the wording of the 14th Amendment. Which is not to say he won’t try. But if SCOTUS were to over rule the clear, unambiguous language it would in essence negate the Constitution itself. This would be the single most egregious over use of power in the history of our country and could in theory force the next administration to flood the court with many more justices or even force impeachment. It’s that big a deal. I have no real belief that the conservative court would stop and pause to think about the ramifications of this action but it’s my hope they would. John Roberts would go down in history as the worst, least meaningful Chief Justice and Gorsuch, Alito, Thomas, et al would be designated as crony criminals by any legitimate historian looking back at this period in history.

AMENDMENT XIV

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Altering a Constitutional Amendment. Golly, what a wonderful start, along with his tariffs, cabinet choices and proceeding with adding a multitude of historical milestones once again, little wait time needed for bonus—non-ethical or logical, nation demeaning actions to be imposed, oh the list thickens!.. as politely as I can phrase it.

So far back will this go? My great grandmother was an immigrant. Do I have to go to Finland now? I’m pretty sure they don’t want me.

his russian buddies (esp. those in FL) are not going to be pleased

Yeah every time someone says trump can’t do something because of the Constitution I just look into the camera like I’m on The Office

One thing is clear now, the constitution says what this Supreme Court decides that it says and nothing more. They can “interpret” any provision in accordance with their own political ideology. No rights are safe with this Court’s conservative majority. They don’t honor precedent, they have gone rogue.

Where is our red line?

I cannot emphasize enough what a legal shitstorm this would be.

If the Supreme Court strikes down the 14th amendment, then what is the legal basis for citizenship in the United States the next day?

The Supreme Court can’t write new citizenship legislation from the bench. So if they get rid of the 14th amendment, we’re back to the [vague common-law citizenship system the U.S. used before 1868.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Clause#Pre-Amendment_citizenship_law)

>Justice Joseph Story described the rule in Inglis v. Trustees of Sailor’s Snug Harbor:
>The rule commonly laid down in the books is, that every person who is born within the ligeance of a sovereign is a subject; and, e converso, that every person born without such allegiance is an alien. . . . Two things usually concur to create citizenship; first, birth locally within the dominions of the sovereign; and secondly, birth within the protection and obedience, or in other words, within the ligenance of the sovereign. That is, the party must be born within a place where the sovereign is at the time in full possession and exercise of his power, and the party must also at his birth derive protection from, and consequently owe obedience or allegiance to the sovereign, as such, de facto.[4]

So there would now be a two part rule, that to get citizenship, a baby must be born in United States territory, and be “within the protection and obedience” of the sovereign. What does that mean, exactly?

[There are about 10,000 babies born every day in the United States.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2023/03/07/how-many-people-born-day-global-national/11266988002/) What happens to the babies born the day after this hypothetical Supreme Court decision? Do they get birth certificates? Do they get social security cards? Is there some new set of hospital paperwork the parents have to do to prove that the parents are U.S. citizens? What’s the standard for that now? Do the parents have to prove their ancestors were born in the U.S. going back three generations? More?

This would open up an enormous legal can of worms, and it will likely have lifelong consequences for the children born between the Supreme Court decision and whenever Congress manages to pass legislation establishing new criteria for citizenship.

BuT tHe GuN rIgHtS aRe NoN-nEgOtIaBlE

Ffs these people.

The fact that this is even a discussion proves that this supreme court has no regard for the constitution whatsoever

Screw it let them burn the country down. We can build back quicker.

I’ve already seen the argument used that “…subject to the jurisdiction of the United States…” of the 14th amendment means it doesn’t apply to illegal immigrants in the US because they’re not actually subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. It’s completely batshit stupid reasoning that turns the entire concept of legal jurisdiction on its head. They’re actually going to try it.

And this is supposed to combat grocery prices somehow…?