unfortunately their opinions have 0 weight. they’ll be gone soon.
RickKassidy on
Those officials will likely be no longer employed on January 21st, unfortunately.
Ausrottenndm1 on
How exactly does Miller plan to “close the border completely”?
o8Stu on
And he’s not even in office yet. In 4 years we’re going to look back longingly at “absolutely insane”.
Toadfinger on
The plan puts military personnel in the position of being lawbreakers, one way or the other. They will be ordered to carry out illegal orders. Trump is handing the U.S. to the Russians on a silver platter.
geekamongus on
47% of the US military is not white. Should be interesting.
SiWeyNoWay on
Welcome to Amerikkka
LatterTarget7 on
I’m surprised that people are genuinely ok with the military just rounding people up and sending them to camps to be deported
forthewatch39 on
If they are really that worried shouldn’t they do something?
Hamthrax on
So, is this martial law? If so, how long is the country going to under it?
Slappy_Kincaid on
They seem to think that all immigrants live in Immigrant Town in their state of residence and the US Military just has to go round up the town and drive them back across the border. This “plan” is literally a children’s book for racists.
Musicman12456 on
Serious question… At what point does the President become an enemy of the state? What’s the red line for the military leaders? What does he need to officially order for them to question their loyalty to the President or the USA? Enemies foreign or domestic…
banned4reportingcp on
So what happens when other nations refuse them? What’s Trump’s *solution* if we can’t deport them?
imadork1970 on
The U.S. prison industrial complex is going to get *huge*.
CMG30 on
He was explicit in what he wanted to do and people voted for it. With his picks to run the department, he’s making it clear that he intends to follow through.
People voted for insanity. It’s what the majority want. I keep seeing people who thought he was exaggerating… why?
redditdubbin on
Any semblance of “sane” has gone out the window when he wasn’t locked up years ago with the failed coup alone.
deJuice_sc on
At some point, Trump will probably hand out campaign medals to everyone involved. These sons and daughters, these military personnel wont just be forced to deploy within the borders of the United States, they’ll plan and execute missions targeting American neighborhoods and business centers. They’ll be tearing American communities apart, and then they’ll be celebrated as heroes for their efforts, ‘thank you for your service’. It’s going to be demoralizing, it’s already disgraceful, and it will scar the American psyche for generations. WTF are they thinking.
sugarlessdeathbear on
It’s their duty, according to oaths they swear, to not follow illegal orders.
Am_Deer on
Create panic, act under guise of national security, declare martial law, suspend constitution.
Now everyone can keep track at home.
thats___weird on
We knew this before the election. Why didn’t more people speak up?
jasonfintips on
Well the toddler is in control and the temper tantrums are going to be epic.
ephemeralnerve on
Since it is now abundantly clear that the new Trump admin is planning to purge then deploy the US military against US citizens in what is certain to become a bloodbath, shouldn’t they act before it is too late? It is already very clear that they are a gang of criminals openly planning to violate the US constitution.
Oscilla on
Has there been any precedent for order of operations when military official feels an action is unconstitutional? Are orders traditionally stopped until a court makes a determination? Can courts impose a hold on an order that gives officials legal wiggle room to keep positions until determinations are made? Very curious to learn more about the machinery for those processes
DoggedStooge on
Glad Trump isn’t going to try to purge the Pentagon and military of anyone who recognizes how insane the deportation plan is. Oh wait. Guys, I think we might be in trouble.
Renorico on
Welp since the constitution doesn’t exist anymore, and insurrection and treason are ne normalized.
Feel free to do your thing, Military.
annaleigh13 on
When I took the oath, I swore to defend the constitution of the United States. Additionally I was taught to challenge and refuse to carry out illegal orders.
Now, every single member of the military will be asked to perform illegal actions not for the constitution but for the cult of a single man.
Let’s hope every member of the military remembers their oaths
UniversalPlumbus on
a military coup is still in my election bingo chart…
etham on
Not in the military so hopefully someone can answer these scenario questions:
Scenario #1 – Trump orders a military officer to command a squad/platoon/etc to open fire on protestors. What if that officer refuses? What if the officer orders his men to fire and the men refuse?
Scenario #2 – An officer orders one of his men to execute someone. Soldier refuses, officer shoots that soldier in the head. What recourse does the rest of the men have that just witnessed one of their own being executed for defying an illegal order?
Grouchy_Aide_3018 on
Here’s what Trump and his gaggle of chuckleheads don’t understand, they more they try to tighten their grip, the more people will resist. Unlike Germany or even the US in the 1930s, every American now has a media studio on their pockets. Images, video, sound will get out. These fools that try to carry this out will be doxxed and held to account in the court of public opinion. The Democratic battle plan needs to be to allow this to be publicized, and gum up the works till the mid terms. These idiots believe in their own infallibility, that is their error. We are not Russians, we don’t take kindly to the boot.
Awkward-Event-9452 on
They are deporting because they will not be securing the border. You wait.
purplebrown_updown on
Just wasted money. And just cruel. Americans are unbelievable gullible to believe that this will help them.
dilithium on
Authoritarian regimes always find some excuse to turn the army against the population. You think this excuse is reasonable, that it’ll be limited to the people you don’like, and that it won’t affect you? Surprise, everyone becomes a target when this starts.
DelilahsDarkThoughts on
10 to 1, the second he stretches our troops over the country is the same second he also grabs non-immigrants and rounds up all his undesirables.
SkylarAV on
This is honestly a fascinating stress test to US military values. Since ww2 we’ve taught very heavily on the lessons of fascism and put in safe guards within the military agianst it. They teach that following orders isn’t a moral excuse. The military tried the nazis at nuremburg at built a moral code on it. I wonder if it holds
Front_Translator_948 on
Yall voted for it. Good luck
EmmaLouLove on
This is what Americans voted for — Insanity.
This sadly says just as much about the American electorate as it does Trump. Fool them once, shame on Trump; fool them twice, shame on them.
DeletinMySocialMedia on
I have feeling this won’t follow through, and when doesn’t just like how the trump wall, his base will blame the left.
Artistic-Cannibalism on
I’m sure glad to know that the military will give him a disapproving wag of their finger before caving in like everyone else.
Trump’s bizarre invincibility has convinced me that God doesn’t exist, but the devil does.
RowAwayJim71 on
Military has every right to refuse unlawful orders.
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unfortunately their opinions have 0 weight. they’ll be gone soon.
Those officials will likely be no longer employed on January 21st, unfortunately.
How exactly does Miller plan to “close the border completely”?
And he’s not even in office yet. In 4 years we’re going to look back longingly at “absolutely insane”.
The plan puts military personnel in the position of being lawbreakers, one way or the other. They will be ordered to carry out illegal orders. Trump is handing the U.S. to the Russians on a silver platter.
47% of the US military is not white. Should be interesting.
Welcome to Amerikkka
I’m surprised that people are genuinely ok with the military just rounding people up and sending them to camps to be deported
If they are really that worried shouldn’t they do something?
So, is this martial law? If so, how long is the country going to under it?
They seem to think that all immigrants live in Immigrant Town in their state of residence and the US Military just has to go round up the town and drive them back across the border. This “plan” is literally a children’s book for racists.
Serious question… At what point does the President become an enemy of the state? What’s the red line for the military leaders? What does he need to officially order for them to question their loyalty to the President or the USA? Enemies foreign or domestic…
So what happens when other nations refuse them? What’s Trump’s *solution* if we can’t deport them?
The U.S. prison industrial complex is going to get *huge*.
He was explicit in what he wanted to do and people voted for it. With his picks to run the department, he’s making it clear that he intends to follow through.
People voted for insanity. It’s what the majority want. I keep seeing people who thought he was exaggerating… why?
Any semblance of “sane” has gone out the window when he wasn’t locked up years ago with the failed coup alone.
At some point, Trump will probably hand out campaign medals to everyone involved. These sons and daughters, these military personnel wont just be forced to deploy within the borders of the United States, they’ll plan and execute missions targeting American neighborhoods and business centers. They’ll be tearing American communities apart, and then they’ll be celebrated as heroes for their efforts, ‘thank you for your service’. It’s going to be demoralizing, it’s already disgraceful, and it will scar the American psyche for generations. WTF are they thinking.
It’s their duty, according to oaths they swear, to not follow illegal orders.
Create panic, act under guise of national security, declare martial law, suspend constitution.
Now everyone can keep track at home.
We knew this before the election. Why didn’t more people speak up?
Well the toddler is in control and the temper tantrums are going to be epic.
Since it is now abundantly clear that the new Trump admin is planning to purge then deploy the US military against US citizens in what is certain to become a bloodbath, shouldn’t they act before it is too late? It is already very clear that they are a gang of criminals openly planning to violate the US constitution.
Has there been any precedent for order of operations when military official feels an action is unconstitutional? Are orders traditionally stopped until a court makes a determination? Can courts impose a hold on an order that gives officials legal wiggle room to keep positions until determinations are made? Very curious to learn more about the machinery for those processes
Glad Trump isn’t going to try to purge the Pentagon and military of anyone who recognizes how insane the deportation plan is. Oh wait. Guys, I think we might be in trouble.
Welp since the constitution doesn’t exist anymore, and insurrection and treason are ne normalized.
Feel free to do your thing, Military.
When I took the oath, I swore to defend the constitution of the United States. Additionally I was taught to challenge and refuse to carry out illegal orders.
Now, every single member of the military will be asked to perform illegal actions not for the constitution but for the cult of a single man.
Let’s hope every member of the military remembers their oaths
a military coup is still in my election bingo chart…
Not in the military so hopefully someone can answer these scenario questions:
Scenario #1 – Trump orders a military officer to command a squad/platoon/etc to open fire on protestors. What if that officer refuses? What if the officer orders his men to fire and the men refuse?
Scenario #2 – An officer orders one of his men to execute someone. Soldier refuses, officer shoots that soldier in the head. What recourse does the rest of the men have that just witnessed one of their own being executed for defying an illegal order?
Here’s what Trump and his gaggle of chuckleheads don’t understand, they more they try to tighten their grip, the more people will resist. Unlike Germany or even the US in the 1930s, every American now has a media studio on their pockets. Images, video, sound will get out. These fools that try to carry this out will be doxxed and held to account in the court of public opinion. The Democratic battle plan needs to be to allow this to be publicized, and gum up the works till the mid terms. These idiots believe in their own infallibility, that is their error. We are not Russians, we don’t take kindly to the boot.
They are deporting because they will not be securing the border. You wait.
Just wasted money. And just cruel. Americans are unbelievable gullible to believe that this will help them.
Authoritarian regimes always find some excuse to turn the army against the population. You think this excuse is reasonable, that it’ll be limited to the people you don’like, and that it won’t affect you? Surprise, everyone becomes a target when this starts.
10 to 1, the second he stretches our troops over the country is the same second he also grabs non-immigrants and rounds up all his undesirables.
This is honestly a fascinating stress test to US military values. Since ww2 we’ve taught very heavily on the lessons of fascism and put in safe guards within the military agianst it. They teach that following orders isn’t a moral excuse. The military tried the nazis at nuremburg at built a moral code on it. I wonder if it holds
Yall voted for it. Good luck
This is what Americans voted for — Insanity.
This sadly says just as much about the American electorate as it does Trump. Fool them once, shame on Trump; fool them twice, shame on them.
I have feeling this won’t follow through, and when doesn’t just like how the trump wall, his base will blame the left.
I’m sure glad to know that the military will give him a disapproving wag of their finger before caving in like everyone else.
Trump’s bizarre invincibility has convinced me that God doesn’t exist, but the devil does.
Military has every right to refuse unlawful orders.