Schweizer Film über einen Autohasser, Radfahren und Verkehr im Allgemeinen

of course it’s right to hate cars

Bike infrastructure is so bad in Switzerland, even within the cities. If you have to go outside the city, you get a painted dashed line that separates a 30 cm strip where cars go 80.

I bet the guy is single. And I bet the guy was on this thread:

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/comments/1grrzst/why_cars_still_reign_supreme_in_railnation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/comments/1grrzst/why_cars_still_reign_supreme_in_railnation/)

What an absolute legend!

I can’t stand cyclists, worst people you can encounter on the street.

We should ban them.

As for this guy, he seems like the kind of person that would have had a great career in Nazi Germany.

Car driver from Lucerne here.

Is the situation for cyclists bad and dangerous in Lucerne? Yes, absolutely.

Is it shitty for car drivers as well? Of course.

But there is simply no “good” solution for the problems. The city is built densely, the space between the rows of houses is tight.

Every measure you take to make things better for one group of stakeholders, makes things worse for another group.

And then there are measures who make things worse for everybody… that’s the ones that our politicians prefer. (Quite close to my home they recently introduced a “traffic calming measure” that forces you to change into the opposite lane, right at a sharp blind bend. So you literally have to drive into the oncoming traffic without being able to see if a car is approaching before you’re already in their lane… that’s the kind of criminal energy the traffic planners in Lucerne have)

Anyway, realistically, as long as anybody is allowed to operate a car here, there will be no real solutions. The room for the traffic doesn’t get bigger. Yes, they can make the room for cars smaller. This is already happening each year and each week. And it will make the situation a bit better for cyclists. (As I said, that’s needed.) But it also causes a lot of collateral damage that mostly hits the minority of car users that actually have good reasons for their car usage.

I mean people who don’t have a fixed workplace. People who are visiting customers and/or transport things to them. Service technicians, handymen, delivery people, … we are the minority of car drivers that actually can’t work without a car. And we suffer the most from traffic jams and the fact that you can’t f*cking park anywhere anymore in this city. It costs us and our customers a lot of time and money.

But to be very clear: this is a small minority of car drivers. According to statistics, almost 45% of the traffic is “leisure”, another 15% is “shopping”. Then we have about 25% “work” (but as far as I understand this is mostly people driving to their fixed workplace). Actual “business activities and business trips” is like 7%. I guess those 7% contain most of the traffic that is actually needed.

So there is loads of potential for reducing traffic. Starting with the huge majority of traffic, that isn’t actually needed. If all the shopping and leisure trips wouldn’t jam the steets and parking lots, there were absolutely no traffic issues.

But nothing in this regard is going to happen. Nobody is going to tell those who cause all that senseless traffic that they should stay away from the roads. Instead they’ll continue to make things worse for everybody… which again, will make the minority of those who do no-nonsense traffic suffer the most.

And at some point, people in the city center are going to wonder why nobody comes to fix their heating, fridge, computer or whatever. It’s easy, Karen, because nobody has time to search for a parking lot for 40 minutes and then, if they finally found one far away from your actually location, haul your new fridge across half the city. Because that’s the situation that we already have today. And the city has decided to get rid of another 3500+ parking lots by 2040. Good luck with that. But as long as you don’t stop handing out “resident parking passes” to every Karen who has a flat in the city center and still needs a shopping SUV and take other mesaures against the nonsense-traffic, this will just end any actual business traffic in the city permanently. But hey, I’m sure there are tutorials on how to fix your heating on TikTok or whatever.

Bike infrastructure is pretty poor here, often in the countryside when there is some, it’s really useless, it takes so many turns, it starts and stops. In cities other than a yellow painted line there is nothing (well Zurich). So yea, it is pretty crap infrastructure.

But if self declaring as a car hater is going to get people to listen, I doubt it.

Ah, extremeism..

I am a cyclist and a car driver. I treat both with care on the road.

I have a friend who was descending the back-side of Furkapass, this road is very tight and the descent can be very scarry on a bicycle. My friend placed himself a little bit towards the middle of the road. He was able to get up to the speed limit on the straight sections, so a BMW behind him was not able to pass, but said BMW’s bumper was less than a meter off the rear wheel of my friend’s bicycle, and for a very long time. Thankfully, a guy in an Alfa Romeo 4C managed to pass the BMW and then slowed down, forcing the BMW back, protecting my friend from the asshat in the BMW. He did this the entire way down the pass.

On more than one occassion, while out on my bike, I have had people actively try to run me off the road (in most cases, they are older men and women in older cars. Likely venting their personal furstrations on someone vulnerable).

I also know a couple who like to run their winscreen washers when passing cyclists who are going up a hill (if you don’t know, it creates a cloud of an alcohol solution, which when breathed in, is really bad). They think it’s funny.

So, yes, some car drivers are arseholes. Most aren’t. And some drivers are angels. But can you condemn them all based on the actions of only some of them?

On the other hand, some cyclists ride like asshats. Three-abreast on the road, or riding in the middle of the road, with a smug smile on their face knowing they are annoying the traffic behind (as is shown in the SRF’s webpage), or riding on a narrow road when the cycle path is availabe. I do see more cyclists breaking traffic regulations than I do cars, not stopping at traffic lights being only one of them.

So, both sides can point fingers at the other.

But, in the end, this guy is missing the point. It’s not the cars, it’s the idiots on the electric scooters who are the real menace on the road /s

As a pedestrian in Basel, I hate cyclists! Most of them are oblivious to any of the rules of the road and still get mad for the rules they are breaking.