Warum das Auto im Eisenbahnland Schweiz immer noch die Oberhand hat

Easy, check the price of rail tickets.

Because we don’t care about the various ways of cars to pollute our environnement (so, our country).

We only tunnel-vision on carbon emission when the tires are also part of the pollution disaster of micro and nanoplastics being everywhere.

Let’s keep ignoring that we’re poisoning ourselves at an increasing speed. I mean, having ALWAYS MORE of everything in every area is obviously our common goal. And while we’re at it, let’s keep on deluding ourselves that it’s physically doable, because some trash-tiers economists says so.

And lastly, let’s not prepare to handle a world with increasingly huge shocks, may them be from ecology, economic or geopolitics factors. Food will always and forever come from our retailers and we should keep on destroying our fertile soil with monoculture, because… IT’S CHEAP !

PS : Bonus point for the big project of roads coming up, because we can so obviously see that doubling the lanes worked so very well in huge cities that applied this “”””logic”””” (like, Las Vegas).

Don’t forget to listen to economiesuisse or similar lobby trashes that will come up with degenerate and unrealistic arguments, to make sure that next years, they’ll be able to buy their third house.

Never will understand how people would rather sit in a traffic jam than go with the train.

Taking public transport to work would take me 48 minutes – if I drive, it’s 13 minutes on average. Now add the fact, that being 1 minute late for my bus, would make me arrive at work 30 minutes later – the same scenario sets me back 1 minute when going by car. Flexibility is by far the biggest factor for me when it comes to this topic, and every single person I know says the same thing – I am not willing to give up comfort, flexibility and 1h of my life every single day for a cause that won’t be single-handedly affected by me.

+ like everyone said, public transport is too expensive, especially if you are traveling w others

I am 100% convinced that people that come on here to just rant on cars must live in super well connected areas with a one-stop or no-stop destination for work and leisure.

The working hours must be super standardised and never deviate into very early or very late AND they must get their GA compensated either by being young or having the workplace pitch in.

Little cherry for those that of course have a 1.Class GA and therefore can always sit.

I’m glad that’s the demographic of most of the country and the ones using a car are just simply lazy, self centred, hate the environment and love to sit in traffic listening to the same 10 songs every day on the radio.

why is nobody mentioning that people also just like cars? lol

I don’t understand why there’s not more people on motorbikes or 125cc rollers.

Most of the year, the weather is good enough. Most commuters are sitting alone in their car, using too much space and gasoline. A roller is way more efficient!

For the price of 2 years of GA you can buy a new roller and plenty of gas and insurance isn’t that expensive

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I would love to have a GA. But for my daily commute, it doesn’t make sense, and 4k a year is a lot to me. I love my halbtax. Because then the trainticket prices feel like “normal” to me. It would be nice if there was something between a halbtax and a GA so train travel would be more affordable.

First; convenience.
Our time on this planet is limited, we spend enough of it working and sleeping. If I can save myself 1h a day of liberty, for a similar or marginally higher cost, I will do it.
Connexion are far from good unless you live in a large city or urban area. I am a 5 min drive from the city, only 2 bus in the morning, 1 at noon, 4 in the evening. God forbid you miss it because the driver did not keep the schedule or the bus was full when it passed you.
Sure I can walk but then it is 45 min transit to my work instead of 7.

Second; price.
Certainly if you do not own a car, AG is cheaper if you are alone or two.
Once you are a family of 4, the price average out.
So for the same price you get the convenience.
Also, even if you are a family of one child, you must really hate car if you are willing to submit to the nightmarish logistics of travelling with a stroller on a bus. Not all kids like to be carried on the back.

Thrid; environment.
Unlike what extremist like to say, most people are willing to do their part.
But we have to be realistic on what we ask them to do. In Switzerland people sort their trash rather well, recycle, buy local when they can afford to, do not overheat or use ac recklessly. If they can, most will drive electric.
But of course, when they can, they will travel by plane because it is either cheaper or faster than other ways. People want to strike a balance between what they can do to help and still enjoy their life. Living time is limited, free time is limited, vacation time is limited, budget is limited.

Convenience is king and most people, rightly so, do not wish to live as slave of the environment if the quality of their life will suffer for it. It is not like we will be rewarded by mother earth for it. Nature does not gives a F and will give your child bone cancer even if you live the perfect life.
So unless you manage to increase convenience and lower cost of environmental friendly alternative, you will be faced with a wall.

It’s not cost.

It’s convenience and time saved. If you’re not traveling city to city, cars are just way faster.

wtf do i care about cost if my daily commute (one way) by car is 30-40 minutes and by train 2 hours.

Maybe because taking the train is much more expensive?

Anual cost for insurance + gas + car tax + few parts and fluids for maintenance + motorway vignette + mfk cost once every few years is still less than GA for me. And don’t forgett all other positive perks that come with it. No drunk people, no stinky kebaps, not stuffed in a tin can, no people yelling at their phone and most important freedom regarding time schedule and its available 24/7.

I fail to understand how people calculate ridiculus high cost/km here in the comments. Not everyone owns a new 80k+ CHF wagon that takes 10l for 100km and gives you 3k maintenance and 1.5k insurance cost a year.

Buy used and repair yourself or don’t go to amag. And if something major like the gearbox or engine fails, bring the car to the next export seller , get a few bucks back and get another used one that drives.
Perfectly fine for me. I don’t need the latest 360 camera or driving assistance.

Or am I missing something here except people nowdays don’t even know how to check the brakes for ware or change wheels on a car let alone even know the major components you see when opening the hood?

As a train lover myself, I think there are a few reasons why cars remain supreme.

1. Train travel is relatively expensive especially once you turn 25 or are older, no NightGA, no youth group discounts, no FriendGA or anything like that. Cheapest case scenario are Super Saver tickets in addition to halbtax(if you are over 25) or 4K CHF GA if you travel everyday from major city to major city.

2.If you live in a small town and your work is also in a small town somewhere far, car travel is easily twice as fast. For example if you go from a random house in Littau to the ABB offices in baden you will go faster by car then by Public transport which would require you at least 2 changes plus some walking. And to the people who want to say why don’t these people move closer to their work, lets not forget how the rules for getting swiss citizenships work and that a good amount of the people living in CH don’t have a citizenship and those wanting to get one are effectively locked into the town/canton they first moved in.

Big City center to Big city center train is superior though.

3. Convienence and Cheaper for transporting multiple people. Especially if you and your friends are older then 25 years old, it can get expensive to get train tickets to go somewhere, while with a car that you already use for other purposes its 40-60 CHF of petrol in total for very long trips(and you can divide that 4-5 ways). Also you are not stuck to schedules and can go anywhere(even flat places without asphalt).

Get a bunch of these factors together and you can see why people tend to go for Cars.

I’m using public transport and live in a city but we are a family of 4 and our life quality is lower because we don’t have a car. It’s hard to do family trips and even then we have to rent a car. Which is in itself a pain in the ass since I have to install baby chairs every single time. My wife want us to buy a car but with 10k per year I’m reluctant to buy it.

I find public transport more comfortable than driving because I can check my phone, have a snack, watch a video, have a beer with friends before my journey and not worry about finding somewhere to park. Unfortunately I realise that most drivers in Switzerland do all of these things behind the wheel anyway.

Swiss person who moved to the US here.
It makes me sad to see cars being chosen over public transport, because while I do understand the incentives, I miss being able to take a train or a bus every single fucking day.
Growing up in CH I’ve realized how important PT is for the health of a society; understanding mutual spaces, respecting that space, not to mention the mental health and climate implications.
I beg of y’all, don’t take it for granted.
I wish I could sit on a train to work reading a book like I used to. Now I’m stuck in shitty ass American traffic instead.

Cause houses and all buildings we need are near roads

Commute by car is cheaper than trains. Next

For me, it was always because driving to the district main town took me 15-25 minutes by car and 2h by train…

That and school on top in the city with inconvenient times in regards to trains, I saved more than 20h per week of free time by driving instead of the train.

And to add salt to injury, the regional monthly pass was not even 50 franks less than the GA, but I didn’t have any use for a GA as I didn’t have the time to travel anywhere else.

My used japanese hybrid car from 2012 drinks about 5l/100km, doesn’t need loads of attention from the garage, the insurance is relatively affordable as I don’t want to pay for full casco for a used car…and yeah, that came cheaper as taking transit on top of the whole time losses.