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    Russland will Kursk vor den Verhandlungen zurück. Die Ukraine rührt sich nicht.


    Russland will Kursk vor den Verhandlungen zurück. Die Ukraine rührt sich nicht.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/11/16/russia-wants-kursk-back-before-negotiations-ukraine-isnt-budging/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com

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    1. VR_Zeus on

      Wait what ? Russia want territory back but want to keep ulraine lands? … get out of here with this none sense

    2. DramaticWesley on

      Give back Ukrainian land and I’m sure they will be happy to give you back Kursk. Otherwise, keep losing 1000 troops a day. Russia seems to be trying to speed run their own collapse.

    3. Alarming_Designer643 on

      It’s like demanding dessert before you’ve even sat down for dinner

    5. umo2k on

      Easy. Bring back the Borders from 2013. Russia has to deal with the new territorial reality.

    7. Mexer on

      And Ukraine wants its territories back before negotiations. Suck a fat dick.

    11. Dude_I_got_a_DWAVE on

      Kremlin: makes outrageous lies and demands

      The west: “let’s meet them in the middle”

      Kremlin: “insanity just got us free shit”

      THIS NEEDS TO END

    13. veryAverageCactus on

      sure, kursk territory in exchange for Ukrainian territory.

    14. DonutsOnTheWall on

      Ukraine wants their stuff back before negotiations too. Will make negotiations way easier too.

    15. Wemest on

      So essentially they are making demands and setting terms. Newsflash Russia, you are in negotiations.

    16. Torak8988 on

      c’mon putin, skip to the nuclear threats come on

      we have heard this story 1000 times before, you demand, we refuse, you threaten with nukes, we respond with shipments of more weapons, you cry out in fear and pain as if it will destroy russia, and then you claim the new weapons are completely useless, you beg other dictators to sell you more weapons, starving russia even more and driving it even further into financial ruin.

      this cycle is going to go on forever until russia has no more money or putin is no more

    17. Anacalagon on

      I am sure we can trust Putin to negotiate in good faith and not lie, and cheat, and steal, this time.

    18. skinnereatsit on

      Hahah that’s not how negotiations work.

      “We want the things we want first, then we’ll negotiate for the things we want”

    19. SendStoreMeloner on

      Russia doesn’t actually want peace. Putin want more demands met. Crazy demands that will lead to more war.

    21. iamfromny on

      classic Russian gaslighting. after they punch you, they will ask why your are punching their fist with your face?

      and if you fight back, they will say “see, I was right in punching you as you just punched me”

      at this point, I think they actually believe what they say.

    22. SEAN0_91 on

      Putin – “we’ve discovered a book from 1765 stating that Kursk has always been Ukrainian land, so we’re going to let them keep it”

    23. stirly80m on

      Ukraine should take more Russian territory, two can play that game.

    24. F_A_F on

      The new American president who prides himself on doing ‘deals’ is about to find out that a President who has an existential problem for his country won’t be quite as easy to push around.

      Putin asks for Kursk, Zelensky will say no. Trump will expect him to be open to negotiation, Zelensky will be firmly no.

    25. rollerderbydino on

      “Give us your bargaining chip before we bargain! No, you can’t have any of our chips that’s not how this works.”

    26. st8ic88 on

      That’s a great idea Russia, you should both withdraw to 2014 borders before negotiations!

    30. elmariachi304 on

      Lol yes, I’m sure Russia *would* like it if their adversary lost their main leverage in negotiations. I’m not surprised by that, I’m more surprised they’re stupid enough to say that out loud.

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