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    [oc] Gemeldete Selbstmordraten bei jungen Menschen (1995–2022)


    [oc] Gemeldete Selbstmordraten bei jungen Menschen (1995–2022)

    Von Sad-Matter-1645

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    1. re_carn on

      The vertical scale should be of the same value in all cases, otherwise it turns out that a “bad” trend in one country is better in absolute value than a “good” trend in another.

    3. saudiaramcoshill on

      There being differences in the left side (I cannot remember the name for it at 6 am on a Saturday) makes this not beautiful data. Two countries could look the exact same in terms of trends but be incredibly different in terms of results because the scales are not the same.

    4. Ferret1735 on

      Likely that Argentina didn’t diligently report until 2005 and Russia have stopped reporting, plus the variable left axis is confusing but still interesting to see

    5. trooooppo on

      In Russia you don’t kill yourself, you get killed. Nice guys, making favors

    7. brf2022 on

      In the United States at least, men are more likely to complete suicide, while women are more likely to attempt suicide. I would be interested in seeing how these trends compare to suicide attempts in young people over time, and if attempt or death trends vary by sex over time

    13. sudden_onset_kafka on

      Does Russia count the soldiers killing themselves in Ukraine towards this?

    15. Toums95 on

      It’s quite interesting to me that there doesn’t seem to be a “covid effect” in most countries. I would have guessed a different outcome

    16. King_in_a_castle_84 on

      Japan actually surprised me, I figured the line would skyrocket in the last 20 years with the explosion of single adults that have never had sex.

      That being said…it annoys me that the vertical axis for different countries is different. All of these graphs should be 0 through 50, instead of some topping at 15 and others 40+. That’s deceiving and misleading.

      Russia dropping from ~50 in ~2002 to ~12 in ~2019 while France drops from ~14 to ~9 in the same time frame is not an equal comparison.

    17. ChicagoChubbs on

      My first two thoughts upon singing is infographic are one Russia is lying about how those kids died and two what the fuck is up with Sweden

    18. myfunnies420 on

      Lol, the “reported” part doing some heavy lifting re. Russia

    19. lngdaxfd on

      Is it really comparable? Wouldn’t Suicides per 10000 (of age group per country) make more sense?

    20. moogleslam on

      Unfortunately, we’re going to see another huge uptick due to Trump’ss second term.

    21. err0rz on

      Important to note the scale on the graphs is different.

      This is a very misleading “infographic”

    24. CranberrySchnapps on

      Could we get three charts, one for each age bracket with all countries on it?

    26. TechnicalyNotRobot on

      r/dataisbeautiful malding when graphs meant to compare trends have different scales

    28. Dark_Chip on

      Ugly data, makes it look like Russia is doing well though current russian number is worse than the worst argentinian ones. You can still compare trends while using same scale, instead it makes it impossible to compare countries.

    30. DustyCap on

      Lots of folks saying the y axis should be scaled the same for all graphs are missing the point of the presentation.

      You’re not comparing country suicide rates to other countries. If you wanted to do that, you’d keep the scale the same and slap all the lines on one graph with each linebeing a different color.

      You’re comparing the trend in suicide rate in each country over time.

      If you kept all the scales the same, every line would look damn near flat and only Russia would have any obvious change over time.

      You can think of these graphs sort of like a % change in suicide rates over time. In that sense, the scales are the same and you can compare countries.

    31. yurizon on

      Guys, stop complaining about the scale, it is about comparing trends, not about which country has higher suicide rates.

    32. DustyCap on

      Some countries have a noticable increase in suicide rates during the covid years, while others don’t. Think there’s a correlation between how the country handled covid and the suicide rates?

    34. radishing_mokey on

      Can someone tell me what exactly Germany is doing to have such low suicide rates

    36. Chrisaarajo on

      Couldn’t help but notice the suicide rate in Australia dropEd the same time the implemented their gun reforms.

    37. nimurucu on

      Is it ‘per 100k people’ in THAT age range? Cause if it’s not these ststistics are very wrong.

    38. MisterSnippy on

      Dang, I knew things were really bad in Russia in the 90s, but it’s crazy how bad it was.

    40. TediousTotoro on

      Interesting how all of these are fairly regular patterns and then Sweden is just all over the place

    41. Gravybees on

      The US suicide rate has been steadily climbing since the advent of social media.

    42. Plus_Relation_6748 on

      Would be easier to interpret if Australia, Russia, and Japan have a vertical scale with values similar to the countries, otherwise, this is misleading

    47. Humblethorpe on

      Axis are all different ranges which makes comparison difficult. It is certainly data, but I don’t think it’s beautiful, quite interesting, but needs work. Maybe make the scales uniform and pull the data into separate graphs so the ages don’t overlap and put them in descending order of population. Sweden has far fewer people than Russia or the US, 15 people per 100,000 is a bigger proportion of their population, maybe more useful to see it as a share of population too…
      Also maybe some detail on the Russian reporting method. Don’t want to write the data off, because it looks like they’ve declined to around the same level as other countries, but from such a high number to a proportionally lower one makes it look like something changed… But maybe it didn’t, as I mentioned it looks like their suicide rate has come down to the global average.

    48. 99kemo on

      In the US, it seems like 2008 was a critical year for many social-economic trends. Something “changed” during the Great Recession in people’s, particularly young people’s, basic perception of their prospects in life and good economic times after haven’t really changed anything.

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