Simon Coveney: Die jüdischen Menschen in Irland fühlen sich belagert

Dumb. We don’t care if you’re Jewish. If you support imperialism, apartheid rule and the killing/displacement of innocent families you will be called out on it here, whether you’re Jewish or not.
We know not every Israeli is evil, just as we know not every Palestinian is innocent.

As it has been said many many times anti-Zionist does not mean anti-Semitic.

Edit: the number of downvotes on this shows that propaganda, like this article, REALLY works. How many of you have actually been to Ireland?

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I can understand why they feel this way. Anecdotally had a discussion with a close friend and the only thing I said was that the whole situation is fucked up cause there’s bad guys on both sides.  They became vicious, called me a “stupid cunt”. Like holy crap I didn’t even pick a side or say something contentious, it’s factual.  A lot of people in Ireland are being radicalised by the way it’s communicated in the Irish media to be extreme about it, only have to go look at the cesspit/echo-chamber that is r/Ireland.

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Irish person here, I completely agree with him. There are people who have taken the current situation in the Middle East to let their antisemitism to run rampant. And they’re not getting called out on it.

A direct result of the Israeli government’s cynical practice of claiming everyone who opposes zionism and actions of the Israeli state is antisemitic. It blurred the lines between the state and the religion. 

I feel like that statement could apply to basically any country in Western Europe.

As a person that has Jewish family in Ireland: Yes, this is sadly true. They had to take one of the kids out of public school, because after October 7th, it just became too crazy to deal with this, especially if you want to keep on studying on top of that. I am obviously aware that a feeling of security is something subjective, and that others might have acted differently, but the stories I heard from them were pretty scary.

As a result, the kid now visits the Jewish school, which her parents never wanted to, because they are non-religious and secular. That’s how segregation is created.

Irish person here. I don’t know why the Jewish people in Ireland feel under siege tbh. There’s a ris in conservative thinking, like across all of Europe. I don’t feel it’s explicitly targeted against Jewish people any more than other countries ATM…

With everything going on it’s somewhat implied that this is due to the conflict in Gaza. I don’t understand why ones religion would tie them to the actions of another country’s government. It doesn’t make sense to me and I can’t justify an argument around this as a concept.

I think the majority stance in Ireland is simply that Israel is conducting its counter-offensive in an objectively horrendous way. Of course Israel have the right to defend themselves and conduct a counter-offensive. Given that they are on of the most well funded militaries on the planet it’s clear now though that much of this aggression is targeted against the people of Gaza, and not necessarily the terrorists. It’s beyond wreckless and is really quite monstrous.

I also feel that Israel have not made any real efforts to prevent this from happening, there’s an extreme wealth gap between the two regions, serious exploitation from Israel. It’s no surprise that radicalization would grow in these circumstances. Now Israel are making innocent people pay with their lives at a hugely disproportionate scale.

Their actions have really ruined the possibility of peace, this conflict will have centuries long implications for the region. They don’t seem to have any real intention of stopping either until all of Gaza is destroyed and they occupy it.

It’s like the US reaction to 2001, it’s not really justified, and will cost everyone a huge amount in the long run. At least the US made an attempt to use precision strikes etc… though, and didn’t carpet bomb (much) of densely populated civilian areas…

Honestly it very much depends on what kind of pro Palestinian you talk to. Most are very chill, but only the bad eggs (which are a substantial minority, just like the Settler colonialists in the pro Israel camp) get all the attention. The only Jewish person I met didn’t face any discrimination whatsoever, but I haven’t talked to them after the war.

People just need to learn how awful bigotry is, and people that say shit like “no wonder Israel was created by Western Powers, they wanted to dump them anywhere but their streets” or “why is it that no country is accepting Palestinians? It’s almost as if nobody wants them because they’re a horrid uncivilised people that cause trouble everywhere they go” and it’s absolutely awful. Although it’s not word for word I’ve seen people basically type what I’ve just said online pretty much all the time.

How is it possible to be the victim and prepetator at the same time.

While it’s not a good situation, this is what usually happens. Due to ISIS and other terrorist organizations, anti-Muslim hate increases, regardless of individual beliefs, as some people conflate all Muslims with terrorists. Similarly, Israel’s actions have led to a rise in antisemitism, as some cannot distinguish between Jews and Israel’s policies. To some extent, Israel’s leadership has contributed to this issue by labeling anyone who criticizes them as antisemitic, which has only increased the number of genuine antisemites

The situation must be addressed regardless of faith, but censorship isn’t the best solution; education is more effective. Just as criticizing a Muslim-majority country isn’t necessarily anti-Muslim hate, discussing or criticizing Israel shouldn’t be completely prohibited, as some countries like Germany are enforcing, unless it’s clearly and undeniably for anti-Semitic reasons

Also, please send less police to beat up pro-Palestinian protesters, and send more police to protect synagogues and Jewish-related places

Forgive my ignorance, but isn’t this the Europe that some people who believe in Judaism wanted: an abolition of the nation state, a utopia of all people living in harmony?

If you threaten a Jewish minority in your country, they will feel unsafe and make aliyah back to Israel… and since there is severe scarcity of land, what will happen next … you can guess it.

So if you are pro muslim/ Palestine, better treat Jews nicely . It is a long-term strategy!

This is how there are Iranian Jews, Arab Jews and many other Middle Eastern Jews who ended in Israel.
Empathy and respect are solutions.

Jewish.. riiiight. Its not anti Semitism to be anti nazi

Seige: **a military blockade of a city or fortified place to compel it to surrender**.

like this you mean?

How awful! How can people do such a thing?