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    Selenskyj enthüllt den Siegesplan und fordert eine NATO-Mitgliedschaft


    Selenskyj enthüllt den Siegesplan und fordert eine NATO-Mitgliedschaft

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/16/zelensky-victory-plan-ukraine-nato-russia/

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    5. ironicasfuck on

      Make Putin a deal, he can have Hungary if we get Ukraine. Its a detrimental Russian colony anyway

    6. ruiyanglol2 on

      Let me add a small addendum with what the plan of Zelensky outlines other than Nato membership and unlimited weapons:

      1. ⁠Closure of Western ports for Russian cargo.
      2. ⁠Blockade of Danish and Bosporus straits.
      3. ⁠Complete withdrawal of Western business from Russia
      4. ⁠⁠Give to Ukraine $300B frozen Russian funds.
      5. ⁠Removal of restrictions under which USA could transfer to Ukraine only weapon surpluses.
      6. ⁠Use of land-launched Tomahawks over territory of Ukraine.
      7. ⁠Creation of pan-European analogues of Russian Shahed-136 factories.

      And so on and so on. If West, 40-50% of World’s economy, with allies even more, really wanted victory of Ukraine over Russia’s 3% of World’s economy, the main problem not a lack of possibilities, but a lack of desires.

      If the West fails on any of these many points….

    11. PoliticalCanvas on

      IMHO, it’s not bad plan, but it should have an alternative, plan B:

      1. Countries near Russia could have territorial sovereignty only by having WMD protection. Which is a reason why Ukraine surrounded by countries with such protection. And why 3 countries near Russia received, or almost received, nukes after collapse of USSR and failed forced “denuclearization for the sake of International Law” of 1990s.
      2. To obtain such protection, Ukraine can either join NATO or create own WMD.
      3. In case of problems with joining of NATO, Ukrainian President should address the nation and ask all Ukrainians to start studying absolutely everything related to WMD-creation. Creation of one and only existential salvation. And Ukraine army should start loading nuclear waste onto thousands of drones and planes. In days, creating extremely cheap and effective MAD.

    13. SlightlySublimated on

      It will be a cold day in hell before the West sends Ukraine $300 billion in frozen assets lmao. 

      I respect and support Ukraine, but realistically that’s never going to happen. Especially talking about all encompassing blockades on the Bosporus. 

    14. apathetic_vaporeon on

      Not exactly what I was expecting. I thought he was going to try to take out the Russian high command or something.

    15. Puzzled_Pain6143 on

      Some need to be thrown out and some brought in. The question is who decides on that: Putin?

    18. StiffySlitRaider on

      Everyone joins in on Ukraine gangbang not fearing NATO or its nuclear arsenal. Meanwhile NATO; we cannot help bad man has nukes.

    19. bluecheese2040 on

      Ask for everything….when it gets rejected zelensky can play the betrayal card and give up the lands Russia has stolen. I don’t beelive this is a remotely realistic request and everyone knows it.

    20. ImaginaryLog9849 on

      A best response would be to give Ukraine the amount of nuclear weapons they have up if Russia does not get out.

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