Where’s a good place for Ukraine to get their own mercenaries? And what’s a mercenary go for these days? I’m going through my couch looking for change.
LizzyGreene1933 on
So armies can just join in now? Does this work both ways? And if yes, who can join on Ukraines side?
Arucard1983 on
Basically it is time for Poland, South Korea, Japan to join first covertly, then openly.
Arthesia on
With North Korea supplying half of Russia’s artillery and now boots on the ground, effectively Ukraine is at war with North Korea. Then we have Iran supplying long-range missiles to Russia. If Ukraine loses its not simply a defeat for Ukraine, its a victory for authoritarianism and shows how pathetically weak the west and democracy is.
MemberOfInternet1 on
I first heard of this the other day, seems like credible reports. Astonishing that we have north koreans fighting in the big wars around the world now. I guess it makes sense, its the only field in which they have focused development.
Foreign nationals can join the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) and become an official service member of Ukraine – not mercenaries – through the International Legion a military unit founded in 2022, after Moscow launched its full-scale invasion, that primarily consisted of foreign volunteers.
However, foreign nationals are only eligible for non-officer roles, though military and combat experience is only a preferred but not mandatory requirement.
Meinmyownhead502 on
Poland has requested to join Ukraine in fighting Russia
>Warsaw’s planned acquisitions from South Korea include K2 Black Panther tanks, K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers, FA-50 light combat aircraft and Chunmoo multiple rocket launch systems. The two countries initially signed a $12.4 billion defense deal in 2022, the MND stated, with an additional contract signed in 2023 for the K9 Thunder howitzer. In late April 2024, Poland’s National Defense Ministry signed a $1.6 billion contract to buy 72 HOMAR-K launchers from South Korea-based Hanwha Aerospace, Reuters reported.
Earlier reports about the possibility of South Korea arming Ukraine with NATO-standard weapons noted that South Korea was refraining from direct arms sales to Ukraine for fear of Russian retaliation in the form of military assistance to North Korea.
Well, that fear is water under the bridge now…When can we expect these top-notch NATO-standard weapons systems to find their way to Ukraine?
twarr1 on
Every country in the world wants to gain experience and knowledge in not only Ukraine but almost any significant conflict. But very few countries want to do it publicly.
The Ukraine war is a goldmine for the US, NATO, China, North Korea and others. The US and Germany in particular, get to sell arms. Not directly to Ukraine, but to their own militaries. The US gives Ukraine billions of dollars worth of armaments, then the defense contractors sell billions of dollars worth of armaments to the US military to replace them. The worn out adage “follow the money” applies.
As a faustian bonus, various militaries get to try new technologies and tactics on the battlefield (RE drone warfare among others)
Make no mistake, the current conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East and elsewhere are not tragedies for everyone.
IndividualNo69420 on
They are already sanctioned to the bone, we have to be pragmatic, there is nothing we can do to north Korea
Neemturd on
I assumed the West would just increase ammunition slightly to counteract NK troops, essentially more meat for the meat grinder. I thought I recall US military leaders talking about how they thought the degradation of Russian troops through this conflict was useful for Americas long term national security. So it seems as long as they keep supplying enough to slap down enemy troops indefinitely, NK joining in is probably like a 2-for-1 for the West which can now degrade NK resources too.
I might be mistaken but makes sense to me. The West could easily win this war if we wanted to but we choose not to because it’s a relatively cost effective way to weaken Russia and only costs lives of Ukrainian troops – which is pretty morbid but appears to be the logic of our leaders at least in America. Putin is not going to actually use nukes unless Russia itself is falling without hope, he’s not suicidal, he really cares about Russia in his way and would not let it die unless it was clearly going to be dead anyway.
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Where’s a good place for Ukraine to get their own mercenaries? And what’s a mercenary go for these days? I’m going through my couch looking for change.
So armies can just join in now? Does this work both ways? And if yes, who can join on Ukraines side?
Basically it is time for Poland, South Korea, Japan to join first covertly, then openly.
With North Korea supplying half of Russia’s artillery and now boots on the ground, effectively Ukraine is at war with North Korea. Then we have Iran supplying long-range missiles to Russia. If Ukraine loses its not simply a defeat for Ukraine, its a victory for authoritarianism and shows how pathetically weak the west and democracy is.
I first heard of this the other day, seems like credible reports. Astonishing that we have north koreans fighting in the big wars around the world now. I guess it makes sense, its the only field in which they have focused development.
Please join the Ukrainian Army!
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/34779
Foreign nationals can join the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) and become an official service member of Ukraine – not mercenaries – through the International Legion a military unit founded in 2022, after Moscow launched its full-scale invasion, that primarily consisted of foreign volunteers.
However, foreign nationals are only eligible for non-officer roles, though military and combat experience is only a preferred but not mandatory requirement.
Poland has requested to join Ukraine in fighting Russia
[Poland has been modernizing its weapons systems with purchases of NATO-standard arms and armament from South Korea](https://ipdefenseforum.com/2024/05/poland-south-korea-defense-partnership-grows-with-weapons-procurements/)
>Warsaw’s planned acquisitions from South Korea include K2 Black Panther tanks, K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers, FA-50 light combat aircraft and Chunmoo multiple rocket launch systems. The two countries initially signed a $12.4 billion defense deal in 2022, the MND stated, with an additional contract signed in 2023 for the K9 Thunder howitzer. In late April 2024, Poland’s National Defense Ministry signed a $1.6 billion contract to buy 72 HOMAR-K launchers from South Korea-based Hanwha Aerospace, Reuters reported.
Earlier reports about the possibility of South Korea arming Ukraine with NATO-standard weapons noted that South Korea was refraining from direct arms sales to Ukraine for fear of Russian retaliation in the form of military assistance to North Korea.
Well, that fear is water under the bridge now…When can we expect these top-notch NATO-standard weapons systems to find their way to Ukraine?
Every country in the world wants to gain experience and knowledge in not only Ukraine but almost any significant conflict. But very few countries want to do it publicly.
The Ukraine war is a goldmine for the US, NATO, China, North Korea and others. The US and Germany in particular, get to sell arms. Not directly to Ukraine, but to their own militaries. The US gives Ukraine billions of dollars worth of armaments, then the defense contractors sell billions of dollars worth of armaments to the US military to replace them. The worn out adage “follow the money” applies.
As a faustian bonus, various militaries get to try new technologies and tactics on the battlefield (RE drone warfare among others)
Make no mistake, the current conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East and elsewhere are not tragedies for everyone.
They are already sanctioned to the bone, we have to be pragmatic, there is nothing we can do to north Korea
I assumed the West would just increase ammunition slightly to counteract NK troops, essentially more meat for the meat grinder. I thought I recall US military leaders talking about how they thought the degradation of Russian troops through this conflict was useful for Americas long term national security. So it seems as long as they keep supplying enough to slap down enemy troops indefinitely, NK joining in is probably like a 2-for-1 for the West which can now degrade NK resources too.
I might be mistaken but makes sense to me. The West could easily win this war if we wanted to but we choose not to because it’s a relatively cost effective way to weaken Russia and only costs lives of Ukrainian troops – which is pretty morbid but appears to be the logic of our leaders at least in America. Putin is not going to actually use nukes unless Russia itself is falling without hope, he’s not suicidal, he really cares about Russia in his way and would not let it die unless it was clearly going to be dead anyway.