He was never a businessman. He ~~was~~ is a conman that used weak bankruptcy laws and access to easy loans to enrich himself and walk away from any financial burdens.
Let’s not start acting like the guy’s anywhere near the business titans that have icon status in the capitalist world.
TintedApostle on
Trump just proved that so many loopholes exist in the capitalist model that a con man can continue to rip off the public indefinitely long and convince the rubes its good business.
ombx on
This page surely has a paywall. If you encounter a paywall, here is an archived version of the page:
Step 3: Go to the Russians who bail you out of your crappy investments so that you make back some but not all of your losses
Step 4: Lie like crazy to your rube followers that you are a billionaire even though you’re worth far, far less than that
Step 5: Grift, grift, grift
Step 6: Keep lying because even after all that grifting and treason, you are still NOWHERE near being a billionaire.
Starbucks__Lovers on
If he took his inheritances and invested all of it in the S&P, he’d be one of the richest people on earth
Uasked2 on
He’s bullshit.
ombx on
I decided to add this separately, because there is a good chance people won’t agree with my view, and downvote it to oblivion, which is fine. I just didn’t want add my comment with the paywall link, so that gets downvoted too, because some redditors, who do not have access to WaPo can benefit from it.
Now WaPo is a fine institution, one of the best news site ever, sometimes even better than NYTimes, with excellent coverage and very well known opinionated posts.
Thyey are also not not suffering from financial distress, like very many other excellent news sites are. Also addedly, they are owned by Bezos, one of the richest person in the world.
Now information is costly, good articles by good hired authors is costly, running a newspaper operation is costly. I can understand, where the paywall ewatriction comes in, so they earn and run the paper. But Bezos is rich af. He can donate this excellent source of news and articles to the public, and educate us. The general public can benefit from his largesse. Just a thought.
Independent-Bug-9352 on
You bankrupt a casino — where the house always wins — then I’m afraid you’re a failed businessman.
The manchild originally claimed he could fund his own campaign in 2015 hasn’t contributed jack shit. For example, actual billionaire Michael Bloomberg threw a billion dollars in his primaries run in 2020.
IdkAbtAllThat on
I’d say it collapsed somewhere around his first bankruptcy several decades ago, but ok.
Wow. And here I was thinking he was a loser since before he played a shitty businessman on TV…
VoiceRed on
We aren’t out of the woods yet; the MSM is still acting like trump is sane and a viable candidate for the presidency. Makes me sick
Sideshift1427 on
Pretty sure that the casinos were strictly there to launder money and running them properly was never the intention.
Shr3kk_Wpg on
Americans say they want a businessman to “run the country like a business”, but Trump didn’t run a publicly traded company that built value for investors. He ran a private company for his own benefit. He used questionable tax claims to get more money for himself. He sometimes didn’t pay contractors in full, because he could get away with it. Why would any reasonable person think that a businessman who worked to benefit himself and his family, would suddenly work to benefit society? Trump ran a charity where he collected money and then made charitable donations in his own name.
Not-User-Serviceable on
“I’m the best businessman… I know everything there is to know about business… Very successful… People tell me they’ve never seen a businessman as successful as me… I don’t say it, they say it… You’re the most successful businessman the world has ever seen, they say. I don’t know, I don’t know… But that’s what they tell me.”
lamsham69 on
When exactly? First bankruptcy? Second. third, fourth…
rmrnnr on
And it was a glory to behold. A truly intelligent person, in a room of other intelligent people, calling Trump out on his idiocy.
J-the-Kidder on
The only business acumen he has is how to con others. That’s it. Want to know how I know this? Fraud convictions, multiple bankruptcies, countless failed ventures and not a single successful startup he’s backed or actually started himself.
eltedioso on
No it hasn’t. The myth persists, I promise you.
MyDarlingCaptHolt on
His supporters literally do not care about any of this.
All they care about now is hurting their fellow Americans. That’s it.
And the only thing we can do about it, in addition to voting glue, is to cut every Republican out of your life.
Do not allow them in your homes.
Do not hire them.
Do not go into Republican owned businesses.
Leave one star reviews for all Republican-owned businesses.
Tell everyone exactly why you will not have anything to do with Republicans.
We do not accept people who replace reality with ” alternative facts”.
We won’t allow people in our homes or near our families if they think it’s not just acceptable, but presidential, to grab women by the pussy.
Republicans have chosen the path of the Nazis, we choose the path of Aldo Rayne.
Weekly-Ad-7709 on
This will make no difference to the 40% of Americans who think the universe is 6,000 years old.
Rubes gonna rube
SpaceyCoffee on
That was always just an excuse. People like him because he promises to punish out-groups, like gay people and immigrants. Everything else has been a facade to hide the indecency of their thirst for blood and revenge.
AFlockOfTySegalls on
It is incredible to me that anyone ever bought this myth. Why? Because he played one in a poorly made reality TV show?
Forbes published 2 years ago that Trump did worse at “business” than an S&P 500 index fund.
Nothing new here, no big “reveal” if you didn’t buy it before.
Lots of people definitely still believe this, I see rallygoers at his events say it all the time.
CurrentlyLucid on
He has been given everything, he has made nothing. He is now a useless rambling boob.
bailey90740 on
In 1992 (yes, 1992!) a friend I worked with said he thought trump would be a good president; all his business connections and making deals, etc. I said let me look at that.
Found out then how he was having financial disasters, threatening to sue everyone, regularly not paying his bills, treatment of women. And threatening to sue the L A school board so he could put up a 125 story high rise at the old ambassador hotel.
I came back and told him, “no”
sucobe on
> Has collapsed
It was never fucking there to begin with.
prawalnono on
Was it ever standing?
Techno_Core on
God you suck WaPo. It was never a myth. It was a con. He’s been failing at business always.
circa285 on
The myth was only a myth in the minds of his supporters.
fuggerdug on
Not amongst the people that will vote for him it hasn’t. They are either utterly ignorant of reality, and believe him to be his Apprentice persona,or worship him as the second coming.
And for the rest of us, this myth collapsed in the 90s.
heattooth on
I think that collapse came a long time ago for the smarter 1/2 of the country. It seems like some of the slower people are just now putting it together.
Let’s not forget that this is the guy that paid to RIG a website poll about who was the best businessman.
He’s a testament to how thoroughly the U.S. version of capitalism is designed to help rich people stay rich. If we had the version of capitalism that economic conservatives claim that we have (or should have), then Trump would have gone completely broke decades ago and no one would remember his name today.
No economic system based on merit, skill, and innovation would have rewarded Trump with anything. He’s a reminder that few conservatives believe in the things they actually claim to believe about how the economy should work. They move the rhetorical goalposts because otherwise rich people wouldn’t support them.
Gold-Judgment-6712 on
Anyone who still believes in Trump after all he’s done, will never change their opinion. They have left reality behind a long time ago.
The largest numbers of his supporters are people who will vote for anyone Republican, no matter. It’s a religion for them. We can only hope that there are enough sane people left to make sure he never becomes President again.
fanatic26 on
Nobody has ever thought he was a legit businessman so the premise of this article is nonsense. Hes been leaving trails of bankruptcies behind his entire career…
lessermeister on
Seriously? That’s the article? Anyone not in the cult already knew this a LONG time ago…
MaxxManiacal on
What is a government owned “product” the United States has? As a capitalistic society companies own the means of production, not our government. How can a country be run like a business if it has no product and no means of production?
The only thing I can think of is the military. Are we going to turn the US military into a mercenary force and rent it out to the highest bidder?
SnoopsBadunkadunk on
Sadly, it doesn’t matter. His voters will not be moved, they’ll just switch to a different justification. What matters to them is, defeating Dems, because “LiBeRaLs DeStRoYiNg MuRiCa!11!!” To get through, it will take something that breaks this collective delusion that Dems are destroying America.
How about we just keep pointing this out to them:
*Number of times conservatives have accused liberals of destroying America: 859,215,714,705
Number of times America has been destroyed: 0*
IdahoMTman222 on
He was never a legitimate businessman. I watched a friends 3 generation family business lost to doing work for Trump. Bid on contract, awarded contract order thousands of dollars in materials to do the work, 3-4 months in when first payment is to be received from Trump, he renegotiates terms of contract when business owner is already committed to thousands in materials and now labor. Payments are delayed and refusal to pay due to complaints on performance to contract. 3rd generation of business forced to close and liquidate to meet their obligations. Trump claims he is a successful businessman. This was from back in the 80’s. I truly hate the man.
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we see him for what he is now.
He was never a businessman. He ~~was~~ is a conman that used weak bankruptcy laws and access to easy loans to enrich himself and walk away from any financial burdens.
Let’s not start acting like the guy’s anywhere near the business titans that have icon status in the capitalist world.
Trump just proved that so many loopholes exist in the capitalist model that a con man can continue to rip off the public indefinitely long and convince the rubes its good business.
This page surely has a paywall. If you encounter a paywall, here is an archived version of the page:
https://archive.is/C5tge
“How to become a billionaire” by Donald J Trump:
Step 1: Have your KKK daddy give you $400 million
Step 2: Lose all of it
Step 3: Go to the Russians who bail you out of your crappy investments so that you make back some but not all of your losses
Step 4: Lie like crazy to your rube followers that you are a billionaire even though you’re worth far, far less than that
Step 5: Grift, grift, grift
Step 6: Keep lying because even after all that grifting and treason, you are still NOWHERE near being a billionaire.
If he took his inheritances and invested all of it in the S&P, he’d be one of the richest people on earth
He’s bullshit.
I decided to add this separately, because there is a good chance people won’t agree with my view, and downvote it to oblivion, which is fine. I just didn’t want add my comment with the paywall link, so that gets downvoted too, because some redditors, who do not have access to WaPo can benefit from it.
Now WaPo is a fine institution, one of the best news site ever, sometimes even better than NYTimes, with excellent coverage and very well known opinionated posts.
Thyey are also not not suffering from financial distress, like very many other excellent news sites are. Also addedly, they are owned by Bezos, one of the richest person in the world.
Now information is costly, good articles by good hired authors is costly, running a newspaper operation is costly. I can understand, where the paywall ewatriction comes in, so they earn and run the paper. But Bezos is rich af. He can donate this excellent source of news and articles to the public, and educate us. The general public can benefit from his largesse. Just a thought.
You bankrupt a casino — where the house always wins — then I’m afraid you’re a failed businessman.
The manchild originally claimed he could fund his own campaign in 2015 hasn’t contributed jack shit. For example, actual billionaire Michael Bloomberg threw a billion dollars in his primaries run in 2020.
I’d say it collapsed somewhere around his first bankruptcy several decades ago, but ok.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html
Trump supporters always fall back to this excuse when presented with reality: “he’s a businessman.” And American worships businessmen.
Breaking Trump’s reputation as a businessman would be the best way to break his cult.
Non-paywall version here: https://archive.is/C5tge
Wow. And here I was thinking he was a loser since before he played a shitty businessman on TV…
We aren’t out of the woods yet; the MSM is still acting like trump is sane and a viable candidate for the presidency. Makes me sick
Pretty sure that the casinos were strictly there to launder money and running them properly was never the intention.
Americans say they want a businessman to “run the country like a business”, but Trump didn’t run a publicly traded company that built value for investors. He ran a private company for his own benefit. He used questionable tax claims to get more money for himself. He sometimes didn’t pay contractors in full, because he could get away with it. Why would any reasonable person think that a businessman who worked to benefit himself and his family, would suddenly work to benefit society? Trump ran a charity where he collected money and then made charitable donations in his own name.
“I’m the best businessman… I know everything there is to know about business… Very successful… People tell me they’ve never seen a businessman as successful as me… I don’t say it, they say it… You’re the most successful businessman the world has ever seen, they say. I don’t know, I don’t know… But that’s what they tell me.”
When exactly? First bankruptcy? Second. third, fourth…
And it was a glory to behold. A truly intelligent person, in a room of other intelligent people, calling Trump out on his idiocy.
The only business acumen he has is how to con others. That’s it. Want to know how I know this? Fraud convictions, multiple bankruptcies, countless failed ventures and not a single successful startup he’s backed or actually started himself.
No it hasn’t. The myth persists, I promise you.
His supporters literally do not care about any of this.
All they care about now is hurting their fellow Americans. That’s it.
And the only thing we can do about it, in addition to voting glue, is to cut every Republican out of your life.
Do not allow them in your homes.
Do not hire them.
Do not go into Republican owned businesses.
Leave one star reviews for all Republican-owned businesses.
Tell everyone exactly why you will not have anything to do with Republicans.
We do not accept people who replace reality with ” alternative facts”.
We won’t allow people in our homes or near our families if they think it’s not just acceptable, but presidential, to grab women by the pussy.
Republicans have chosen the path of the Nazis, we choose the path of Aldo Rayne.
This will make no difference to the 40% of Americans who think the universe is 6,000 years old.
Rubes gonna rube
That was always just an excuse. People like him because he promises to punish out-groups, like gay people and immigrants. Everything else has been a facade to hide the indecency of their thirst for blood and revenge.
It is incredible to me that anyone ever bought this myth. Why? Because he played one in a poorly made reality TV show?
Trump has knowingly had illegal immigrants work construction for him. But I guess that got a pass because [they werent brown people](https://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/).
Note the publication date of the article, btw…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-official-trump-would-be-richer-if-he-had-just-invested-his-inheritance-into-the-sp500/
Forbes published 2 years ago that Trump did worse at “business” than an S&P 500 index fund.
Nothing new here, no big “reveal” if you didn’t buy it before.
Lots of people definitely still believe this, I see rallygoers at his events say it all the time.
He has been given everything, he has made nothing. He is now a useless rambling boob.
In 1992 (yes, 1992!) a friend I worked with said he thought trump would be a good president; all his business connections and making deals, etc. I said let me look at that.
Found out then how he was having financial disasters, threatening to sue everyone, regularly not paying his bills, treatment of women. And threatening to sue the L A school board so he could put up a 125 story high rise at the old ambassador hotel.
I came back and told him, “no”
> Has collapsed
It was never fucking there to begin with.
Was it ever standing?
God you suck WaPo. It was never a myth. It was a con. He’s been failing at business always.
The myth was only a myth in the minds of his supporters.
Not amongst the people that will vote for him it hasn’t. They are either utterly ignorant of reality, and believe him to be his Apprentice persona,or worship him as the second coming.
And for the rest of us, this myth collapsed in the 90s.
I think that collapse came a long time ago for the smarter 1/2 of the country. It seems like some of the slower people are just now putting it together.
Let’s not forget that this is the guy that paid to RIG a website poll about who was the best businessman.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/michael-cohen-says-he-paid-tech-firm-rig-online-polls-n959746
He’s a testament to how thoroughly the U.S. version of capitalism is designed to help rich people stay rich. If we had the version of capitalism that economic conservatives claim that we have (or should have), then Trump would have gone completely broke decades ago and no one would remember his name today.
No economic system based on merit, skill, and innovation would have rewarded Trump with anything. He’s a reminder that few conservatives believe in the things they actually claim to believe about how the economy should work. They move the rhetorical goalposts because otherwise rich people wouldn’t support them.
Anyone who still believes in Trump after all he’s done, will never change their opinion. They have left reality behind a long time ago.
The largest numbers of his supporters are people who will vote for anyone Republican, no matter. It’s a religion for them. We can only hope that there are enough sane people left to make sure he never becomes President again.
Nobody has ever thought he was a legit businessman so the premise of this article is nonsense. Hes been leaving trails of bankruptcies behind his entire career…
Seriously? That’s the article? Anyone not in the cult already knew this a LONG time ago…
What is a government owned “product” the United States has? As a capitalistic society companies own the means of production, not our government. How can a country be run like a business if it has no product and no means of production?
The only thing I can think of is the military. Are we going to turn the US military into a mercenary force and rent it out to the highest bidder?
Sadly, it doesn’t matter. His voters will not be moved, they’ll just switch to a different justification. What matters to them is, defeating Dems, because “LiBeRaLs DeStRoYiNg MuRiCa!11!!” To get through, it will take something that breaks this collective delusion that Dems are destroying America.
How about we just keep pointing this out to them:
*Number of times conservatives have accused liberals of destroying America: 859,215,714,705
Number of times America has been destroyed: 0*
He was never a legitimate businessman. I watched a friends 3 generation family business lost to doing work for Trump. Bid on contract, awarded contract order thousands of dollars in materials to do the work, 3-4 months in when first payment is to be received from Trump, he renegotiates terms of contract when business owner is already committed to thousands in materials and now labor. Payments are delayed and refusal to pay due to complaints on performance to contract. 3rd generation of business forced to close and liquidate to meet their obligations. Trump claims he is a successful businessman. This was from back in the 80’s. I truly hate the man.