Das italienische Parlament verabschiedet einen Gesetzentwurf zur Kriminalisierung der Leihmutterschaft im Ausland
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/world/europe/italy-surrogacy-law.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&tgrp=bth&pvid=81391239-0F6C-4EA5-912D-250FFDB034FC
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“Italy passed a law on Wednesday that criminalizes seeking surrogacy abroad, a move the country’s conservative government said would protect women’s dignity, while critics said it would deprive gay or infertile couples of a way to have children.
Surrogacy is already illegal in Italy. But the government of Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has vowed to broaden the ban to punish Italians who seek it in countries where it is legal, like in parts of the United States.
Italy’s Senate approved the bill with 84 votes in favor and 58 against.
The Roman Catholic church, along with many feminists, have opposed surrogacy, and it is outlawed in other European countries. In some, like the United Kingdom and Greece, it is legal under certain conditions.”
I thought Italy was worried about the declining birth rate?
There is nothing worse than conservative values.
This is just evil, pure evil.
If something is allowed in other countries, then prosecuting it from the country of origin introduces chaos into international relations. Ultimately, this is a bad solution, leading to problems and indirectly imposing different laws on other countries.
Does Italy intend to act systematically and symmetrically and, for example, stone a woman for adultery if she escapes punishment in Saudi Arabia?
It’s just stupidity and that’s all…
Shame on us
It’s not enough that Italians are leaving the country as it is… let’s give them more reasons to leave. But what can you do when you elect idiots…
I am convinced that the birthing mother has every right to keep the child she birthed. So any surrogacy ‘system’ can only work if it’s absolutely voluntary and as long as the genetic parents respect that.
And now we wait for Mister President Giorgia Meloni to lure Elon Musk in Italy so he can be arrested.
Does by surrogacy the paper means in vitro?
Fascists.
With adoption by same sex couples also being illegal in Italy, this functionally makes it impossible for same sex couples to become parents.
The Washington Post did a good article interviewing some parents who this will affect: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/16/italy-surrogacy-ban-gay-parents/
In the eyes of Italian law their infant daughter is an American who overstayed a visa.
Regardless of how you feel about the practice of surrogacy, criminalizing it and punishing the children born via that method is just not right. The kids who were already born who are living in Italy are now functionally being treated as illegal immigrants by the law despite being raised by Italian parents in Italy. It’s unjust for the children being forced to live in this legal gray area.
How Alessandro Zan said: “You (the right-wing majority government) say “No” to criminalise torture, you say “No” to criminalise slavery, and say “Yes” to criminalise surrogacy. So Giorgia Meloni now must have the courage to look in the eyes to Elon Musk, who had a daughter through surrogacy, and tell him that he’s a criminal. Instead, she welcomes him to her office and, because he’s right-wing and rich, Giorgia Meloni didn’t close one eye, but both of them. Apparently, if you’re from the right and rich, surrogacy is not longer a problem”.
Given that overseas surrogacy can be incredibly exploitative of women in low-income countries, I feel like criminalising it overseas can be justified so long as its legal in Italy. But its not, so this seems like a bullshit approach to take.
Nice, a logical thing to do… I hope that we will criminalise it in Greece too. It’s a shame.
I have been to Ukraine (Pre-War) and have seen these posters and flyers all around. They prey on vulnerable women and they get feck all of the money that these people pay. I think around 25%/10k.
And if there is something wrong with the child then the buyers occasionally will just run and leave the poor child with the mother or in an orphanage.
Buying babies is reprehensible, it can never be normalized.
I have no problems with altruistic surrogacy but the commercial stuff needs to be banned.
Good. I thought that the debate on whether purchasing people had been settled centuries ago.
To which I’ll add on top of that, if the mother needs the money, she isn’t doing it “voluntarily” either. You’ll find real horror stories from their perspectives if you look it up.