Der deutsche Bundeskanzler teilte dem Bundestag mit, dass er bereit sei, mit Putin über die Beendigung des Krieges in der Ukraine zu diskutieren
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/10/16/german-chancellor-tells-bundestag-he-is-prepared-to-discuss-ending-war-in-ukraine-with-putin-en-news
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He has no mandate to discuss such a thing.
West failed plain and simple. The most industrialized nations in the world couldn’t get their shit together to supply and Ukraine to push the Iranian and North Korean reliant Russians back. This is downright embarrassing for the West what a huge PR win for every anti western nation. BRICS applications gonna be through the roof.
Putin only understands strength, so tell him Germany will send troops if russia doesn’t stop their crimes in Ukraine
bruh
How does Germany keep fumbling in the face of this conflict (I mean they have helped a lot, but also a lot of stupid shit peddling).
That’s not, what the source article is saying. This is misleading at best. It even closes with how there can’t be anymore enlargening of one’s country nowadays. He just says (again) that someone’s gotta talk to Putin.
Who the f@ck does Scholz think he is?
Delusional weakling with no spine.
It’s not his call.
Send him an invitation on a Taurus. 💪🇺🇦💪
…but it’s not his place to discuss the russian capitulation and reparations. That’s Zelenskis’ job.
TL; DR He’s talking about Zelensky’s own peace summit.
>Scholz reminded the chamber that Ukraine had consented to Russia taking part in a second Summit on Peace in Ukraine, which Kyiv has said it plans to convene by the end of the year.
But of course the usual gang of idiots is here to bleat about how Ukraine’s allies are stabbing Ukraine, or how Ukraine has failed, or Germany isn’t sending any aid to Ukraine, or any one of another of their little piles of horseshit they love to shovel.
Scholz obviously thinks, that if peace deal is reached, Germany can go back to doing business with Russia as usual. This is exactly the reason why north stream was blown up, because Germans still think that everything will return to normal after the war. Somebody needs to blow up the second one, so they cant stop dreaming about this.
With north korean troops coming in, this looks like a p*ssy move!
The weakness of this man is blood-boiling. How on Earth is he a leader?
Kinda looks like begging now……
So embarrassing.
This for Ukraine to decide. German chancellor’s role is to discuss rescuing native Germans in Sudetenland, this is traditionally German chancellor’s role.
How naive is the chancellor on the scale?
What by invading Russia again?
Nothing else is going to work.
You never talk with a terrorist
Well that’s just fine and all but that turkey is not the one doing the fighting. It’s actually in the title Germany. It’s the Russia Ukraine war. See that? Your name doesn’t even come into it. Let’s talk after you lose a few thousand soldiers and Putin’s knocking at your doorstep.
A disgusting and weak man.
Germany, I love you, **but grow a pair already FFS.**
I can’t believe they are going to appease Putin. We are going to be right back at this in a couple of years with a re armed Russia.
Chancellor ~~Scholz~~ Chamberlain just can’t not fumble.
Typical Europeans. Always backing out and appeasing aggressors. No wonder America is tired footing the bill.
Once again America has to clean up Europe’s messes. Hopefully we give Ukraine more weapons and end this conflict.
I mean cool story but it’s not his war to end.
Scholz says a lot.
The real situation:
According to Ivan Trollovitsj Optimistki Ukraine was doomed to loose the war since feb 2022.
Ivan’s little problem is, since june 2022 russia has barely advanced at all in Ukraine.
Ivan: “Ukraine is doomed!”
But you withdrew from the entirety of Northern Ukraine.
Ivan: “Well Ukraine is still doomed!”
And then you got kicked out of Charkiv.
Ivan “Well, russia is still winning bigly!”
And then you ran from Cherson.
Ivan: “Butbutbutbut…. Bakmut, Avdivka and Vuhledar!”
Villages and tiny towns taken in an entire year.
Meanwhile, Ukrainian soldiers have been marching through russian streets in Kursk Oblast, and the spineless russian army has not yet dared to throw them out after 2,5 months.
No, Ivan.
Olaf Scholz is not the Greatest Bundeskanzler Ever.
But even he knows russia is Very Far From Winning.
Of course, Ukraine is not yet winning either.
But young russians from Moscow will soon be shot in the back like Buryatians too, if they refuse to run through open fields towards the Ukrainian trenches.
It is ok.
Young Muscovites are quite cheap.
There’s only two ways this can end
First Russia retreats completely cedes all territories.
The two split scenario is this: Putin dead, or Putin on trial in the Hague for grave humanitarian and war crimes.
It’s not Olaf’s fault. This is the script he was given. Business must flow, no matter the long-term consequences.
Let this serve as a wake up call to idealists who believe in a fair and just world. Geopolitics has nothing to do with ethics and morals.
If Ukraine agrees to take all refugees when it’s free. Half of Europe’s armies would have Russia pushed back to the Kremlin a year ago.
I don’t know why Ukraine hasn’t just offered to be the refugee dump since there’s not a single EU politician that would turn down solving their ‘immigrant’ problems.
Ukraine just needs to enact naturalization policies and management beforehand.
history will know Olaf Scholz as a weak cowardly “man”
Very very misleading title you chose here. At best an unfortunate coincidence but at worst you’re purposefully and harmfully misleading other redditors about the content of his speech to paint Germany and this government in a bad light. Disgraceful.
Let’s have a heart to heart with an indicted war criminal!