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    Windows 10 hat nur ein Jahr Support: Es bleiben Ihnen noch 12 Monate, um Copilot von Ihrem Desktop fernzuhalten oder Linux zu erlernen


    Windows 10 hat nur ein Jahr Support: Es bleiben Ihnen noch 12 Monate, um Copilot von Ihrem Desktop fernzuhalten oder Linux zu erlernen

    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/windows/windows-10-only-has-a-year-of-support-12-months-left-to-keep-copilot-off-your-desktop-or-learn-linux/

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    1. flemtone on

      Already started converting family pc’s to Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon edition with a few special virtualbox setups for specific windows programs.

    2. Enplok on

      Pretty sure that older versions of Windows 11 like 21h2 and 22h2 are still clean from that junk. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

    6. the_red_scimitar on

      I use W11 at work, for over a year. There is zero interference from CoPilot. I never use it, and it never has intruded. I tested it, found it extremely non-functional for code generation, and that’s the end of it.

    8. Helgafjell4Me on

      Copilot is a paid service and off by default. You don’t have to use it.

    9. arrgobon32 on

      So the focus has shifted from recall (which most people won’t even be able to use) to copilot now? It’s basically just a shitty search engine, which you have to opt-in to use.   

      If you’re mad you can’t fully uninstall it (you might be able to, but I haven’t looked), ask yourself what the functional difference is between turning it off vs uninstalling it completely.  “What if MS turns it back on via an update?” Well what if they reinstall it via an update? 

    10. 2948337 on

      I just upgraded to 11 last week. I see a copilot icon in my taskbar but I have yet to touch it. What does it do? I’m afraid to poke it. Maybe it’s a bear and everyone knows that poking bears is never a good idea.

    11. TinyTC1992 on

      You can just turn off copilot. I mean macos will be pushing apple intelligence too. So I guess Linux is the only option for those people who really care about privacy while also using tablets, phones.

    12. Upstairs_Bird1716 on

      Wait, there must be millions of people not being able to buy the hardware required for win11, what are they going to do?

    14. MrNegativ1ty on

      Alternatively, use 11 and turn off recall.

      But that doesn’t get sensationalist ragebait clicks, does it?

    15. Sargasm666 on

      I am by no means defending Windows, but Copilot can absolutely be uninstalled.

    16. TheEpicGold on

      I’ve used Windows 11 for like 1.5 years now and I’ve had 0 issues and have not used copilot once. Y’all are weirding out in the comments.

    17. potent_flapjacks on

      In a year we will learn that Microsoft has been caching snapshots of your data just in case you want to turn copilot on in the future, or some similar bs. And people saying it’s just ChatGPT, that’s not going to age well either.

    18. BasicallyFake on

      all of these anti copilot people are going to be all in on apple ai, chatgpt and google.

    19. IronChefJesus on

      For those who are worried about games, proton has made things a lot easier. It’s rare that a game doesn’t work, and it’s usually only those that require kernel level anti-cheats.

      And should you really play games that have that included?

      Nonetheless, after the crowdstrike fiasco, Microsoft is moving to stop kernel level tools such as those, so this may change and allow those games to be played on Linux as well.

      Finally, if all else fails, you can install windows on an external nvme drive with an enclosure, and just plug it in when you need to use windows.

    22. 1nGirum1musNocte on

      None of my parents pcs will even run windows 11 and they’re only just used to windows 10. Fuck microsoft

    23. ChocolateBunny on

      I plan to sell my WIndows desktop once I’m comfortable gaming on the steamdeck. That will be my last windows PC except for an ass old Intel Atom compute stick which is still running windows 8.

      I think baring some online multiplayer games with shitty anticheat, there is no reason to stick with Windows for personal use.

    24. AndrewH73333 on

      Is there a way to make Windows 11 think I’m in Europe and that I have actual rights?

    25. pre-medicated on

      Damn everybody has amnesia here. Acting like Windows never forced an OS upgrade or reinstalled deliberately uninstalled apps (looking at you, Skype).

    26. M3rc_Nate on

      “learn Linux” lol…

      As someone pretty tech savvy, currently in my second IT class in college, and is IT for his family, I have never and I will never pickup the niche skill set of using command line/terminal. I have zero interest in learning effectively a new language. And man does that suck because I would love to transition to Ubuntu as my OS but the lack of GUI and required terminal usage is a barrier of entry that not just I found to be too high, but IMO it will keep Linux niche and a teeny tiny fraction of the market share for as long as it exists. 

      GUIs are effectively a requirement for anything software to be adopted by the general public. I hope one day Linux realizes this and some distro invests and deploys a GUI that is fully feature rich like Windows and MacOS. Terminal will still be there and be “more efficient” for the geeks and pros but for the literal 98% of everyone else, they’ll be able to utilize graphical interfaces to change settings and what not. When that day comes I’m setting up a dual boot (also not as easy as it should be) and using Linux for everything but gaming (still Windows unfortunately). 

      If there was a time for Linux to take advantage of Windows being awful, now would be it. If Windows 12 happens to be good (as Windows is always bad-good-bad-good) then the wouldn’t get as many converts. 

      (Before you argue terminal> or it’s easy or whatever. Just ask yourself if you showed terminal in Linux to literally anyone who isn’t a nerd, would they want the OS? You’re in the niche, which is fine, but don’t hold a warped POV from inside the niche that everyone needs to put in the work and just get over the high barrier of entry, and that they “just need to learn terminal”. If you can admit your parents, your siblings, your spouse and your normie coworkers would never do that, then admit that prevents 95% of the masses from converting and keeps Linux niche. Which sucks cause we desperately need an alternative to Windows for PCs.)

    27. GreenFox1505 on

      Windows 10 added a Copilot shortcut to my taskbar this morning. I use Win+1 to open a frequently used shortcut and Microsoft just fucking changed my taskbar on me.

      I do console game development. Every DevKit is Windows-based. Even though PlayStation and Nintendo are both Unix-based OSs, there isn’t a valid Linux based development environment for either.

    29. Hot_Cheese650 on

      I really hate Win 11 so far. After days of changing settings and registry edit there’s still so many annoying things.

      Simple action that require one or two clicks on Win 10 now require 3-4 clicks to bypass stupid UI menu to perform the same function. It’s such a stupid design.

    31. 49yoCaliforniaGuy on

      Show me a distribution of Linux that can run any PDF creation software that allows for the complex handling of form fields on documents that are a thousand pages long and I will gladly switch.

    32. ASuarezMascareno on

      The issue with Linux remains driver support and buggy features.

      Each time I get a new computer I give Linux an opportunity, and then I go back to windows after a few days. Last time was a month and a half ago. I spent a weekend trying to get the Nvidia drivers to interact nicely with the Gnome desktop, to get a stable desktop with dual monitors of different resolutions and scalings, and to get control on the fan speeds (this one is a niche one). After failing several times, including a few reinstalls, I went back to Windows and had the OS up and running with no problem in less than an hour.

      Windows causes headaches every once in a while, but Linux causes significantly more. It will never get mass adoption until installing Linux and using it becomes just smooth sailing without having to check the terminal once, and without having to do so much troubleshooting.

    33. octahexxer on

      First time huh? I used win 7 for years after eol….the computer did not explode we made it trough alive.

    34. im_nobody1911 on

      Linux mint best decision of my life. For college work, I just use a vm with Windows 11.

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