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We are broke, motherfuckers! My family is a one and done because we cannot afford another kid. We can’t buy a bigger home, we can’t afford to raise two kids without sacrificing what the first one already gets and we can barely afford post secondary for said child.
You want more kids? Tax the rich and rebuild the country. Otherwise, import them.
How about we just pay workers more so that parents can afford to take time of work if they needed to? Pretty hard for your wife to be a stay at home mom for a few years if you can’t float the mortgage yourself. The article opens by talking about a 40(!) year old woman becoming a mother and struggling with the financial burdens. If people can’t afford to have kids at 40 that’s a pretty big red flag.
These fucking media companies are taking the piss. Let the housing market crash and pay people more, people will start having kids again. People still have sex. They’re just kind enough to not bring people in this world who they don’t want to see get fucked as bad as they are. People don’t want to give birth to slaves of the landlord class in canada
No countries have figured out the solution to get birth rates higher, it seems to be directly linked with poorer people have more kids with the theory being they don’t see having kids as making them miss out on experiences. Countries with the generous policies promoted here in Europe have the same low fertility problem so it doesn’t appear to be income driven.
A bunch of European countries give income tax breaks from parents, let’s do that!
Daycare is too expense and hard to find. Housing is too expensive. Food is too expensive. How are people who want children supposed to afford it?
Make IVF more accessible and cheaper, maybe subsidized or publicly funded for those with infertility. I know in Ontario one round is covered by OHIP. I know a lot of couples who want children, have fertility issues, and can’t afford IVF.
Reduce immigration and stop wasting taxpayers money to support some gender equality programs outside of the country can be a good start.. the child care benefits are so little for hardworking Canadians . To get the full credit of child care benefits , net household income needs to be like 35k ish(don’t quote me on it, can’t remember the exact number..) that’s like below property line if there is one ..
You are not going to fix thjs without either or both of two things. 1. Actually boosting the economy and that means technologixl advancement, innovations, boosting exports, getting businesses to come to canada so ppl can actually make more money. 2. Crash the housing market.
You could get away with 1 but 1 is very difficult and a long term solution that requires signifiant investments in this already backward ass stuck in 1980s economy.
What is easier is a market correction of the reale state market. Will ppl suffer yes. The question is how much are you willing to let the big banks burn.
You over leveraged for decades without investing in anything else outside of real estate. You reap what you sow. There is no out without suffering. It is inevitable.
“Family Allowance” and other child credits were a fraction of what they are now and parental leave half as long when our birth rates were higher. There is more than money involved here so money won’t fix it.
Society has changed. Fewer people want children at all let alone more than two. Many parents don’t want to take a longer break from their careers, let alone 3 or 4 breaks.
Edit to add – Many of the childless couples I know earn decent wages and have house and cars. It’s a lifestyle choice not just a financial one. They love travel and trying out the latest restaurants and season tickets to hockey games and personal trainers. They dote on their fur babies and look forward to early retirement. That’s ok too.
Time to make shit affordable all around and stop giving CEOs hefty bonuses, politicians luxuries, and fucking over the middle and lower classes in every way possible.
The billionaires doubled and tripped their net worth the last 4+ years. Their products doubled and tripled, workers wages have stayed stagnant… no wonder no one can afford a family.
If we want to pay people to do a job they don’t want to do, then we’re looking at about $100K per year for the parent to stay home and forgo the working income, and $50K per child per year for expenses.
Everything is too expensive
Reforming parental leave isn’t going to increase people having kids. Reforming the housing market so there is affordable housing available, stopping the influx of unneeded workers being subsidized forcing companies to pay more would help. Medical care reform and stopping the drain of medical professionals lowering wait times would help. None of this will happen though. If it doesn’t line someone’s pockets or offshore accounts it’s a wish.
I think beefing up childcare options would be a better idea honestly.
Bunch of ways it could be done. It is insane how impossible it is to even secure childcare in most places, let alone pay for it. Absolutely insane.
If the government wants to actually make it easier for people to have kids, I think that would go a huge huge way.
No expert, and I’m just spit balling, but maybe provide an incentive or subsidize part of the cost of opening a daycare for individuals. Of course make sure they are up to code and registered and whatever else needs to be done to make it safe, but if you made it easy and more lucrative for qualified people to provide this service – it would go a loooong way.
Housing, daycare, cost of living. I’m too poor to have more kids 😭
Canada maternity leave is among the best in the world. People don’t need more money. They need to genuinely desire children. With all of the stress and limitations imposed by children who in their right mind would want them?
It’s time to look at why the native population are not having kids. Stable happy people have kids. End wage stagnation cut migration numbers down until infrastructure picks up the results of will show up.
It’s not parental leave or anything else that is hindering my childless friends from using kids – can’t find a partner, they would prefer to cater to their own interests (ie. Travel) and just generally, lack of interest in having children. Most people I know that want children find a way to have kids. Also, I think the big issue is that a lot of millenials have not really grown up.
Solution: allow joint filing, as the US has it. Basically perfect income splitting for couples. That way they won’t be penalized by one person not working.
It’s honestly laughable that they expect a single mother to be able to survive with a child during her maternity leave, at only 55 percent of her income for EI. So many women are trying to get by alone on starvation wages, and now we’re cutting that in half??
This is a distraction opinion piece away from the real problem. Wages are too low in relation to housing costs/general cost of living. Period point blank close the book end of story.
Until we fix that then the fertility rate will continue to tank. Can’t raise a baby in a 450 square foot shoebox when that’s all I can afford a $2k+/m.
dude, honestly i don’t see how this is anyone’s buisness
people just don’t want/cant afford kids
we shouldn’t be worsening conditions just to force us to fuck, that’s frankly dystopian
People can’t afford to have a family currently. People have to work multiple jobs just to afford rent and food.
The media is constantly gaslighting its audience. Everyone knows why people aren’t having kids.
It isn’t affordable. Period.
Look how much everything has increased in the past 10 years. Imagine everything 10 years from now.
This is a macro trend that has nothing to do with affordability. When given access to other shit to do, women largely choose to do other things instead of forming families and having kids. We shouldn’t restrict anyone’s right to pursue what they want in life.
I mainly won’t have kids cause I don’t want to bring a child into this world where we can’t afford shelter, food, education, medical service, FOOD! and everything else.
As much as I don’t like the liberals I appreciate the increases to Parental leave I received. That being said, it could be better than 55%; I would have used more of my allotted time.
No. I’m gonna spend the money I’ll save on having a kid on self improvement, travel and experiences
It’s time to reform immigration and housing policy so we can see a decrease in living costs accompanied by simultaneous wage growth. We also need to look at rising food costs and address that issue as well
Parental leave is important and it’s also crucial that affordable childcare options are available. Here in Nova Scotia, to get into a subsidized childcare center, you could be on a waiting list for more than two years. So in that time you either have one parent not work, or you pay a very high daily rates- so much so that it’s hardly worth working.
Let’s be more generous on parental leave. But let’s also talk about this as the crisis it is. Until the birth rate is more like 1.9 we need to treat this as a crisis.
Reform parental leave, the housing market, grocery prices, day care costs, minimum wage, investment in public transit, investment in highway infrastructure. That should do it
It needs to be a cultural level change. Management will give you a shit job when you get back and can sack to you shortly after you get back for “other’ reasons. This has happened to me, my hubby and countless others because I don’t value work more than my kids and somehow my humanity is a threat to them.
Yes yes we should, having just gotten off our pat leave with our second and last. The whole system needs an over haul, it’s archaic and horrible. To name a few simple things,
Parents can each take a year off, should not be split
Ei should not factor into it at all, there is no insurance aspect to pat/mat leave, it is an investment from the government and it should be seen as that.
Capping at 55percent gross and only going to 655 a week is horrible, probably would have been fine 20 years ago but now it’s barely enough to keep the lights on.
They changed this recently but it sucks, it used to be you could work a certain amount of hours, I think it was 10, and it would not effect it. Not they have changed it to take 50 percent of your earning based on what you worked deducted from your EI. So basically a net neutral loss.
It’s great they extended it to 18 months, but they should also be able to reduce it with the same base pay. Take 6 months off you can then cap out at 1000 a week.
Oh any while we are on it, as a husband you should be able to apply for the Child benefit in your name or the house hold name. Learnt that the hard way with our first, wondered why our ccb was denied, turns out the mother has to apply for it. That’s some cool bullshit. Lol
It costs an incredible amount to have kids in Canada, most people can’t do it.
**Copy Hungary** and instead of immigrating the world give generational rooted Canadian’s incentives like; lifetime income tax exemptions for big families, tax breaks for newly married families with children, low-interest loans for women under 40 marrying for the first time, and free IVF for couples trying.
We can do all of this and grow much more stable, **instead of migrants**
It’s not parental leave, its the cost of living.
WE NEED WAGES THAT SUPPORT FAMILIES
It’s all about profits… And making more of it. Companies run the show and they don’t care about fertility, it’s actually a hindrance to deal with someone going on any type of leave
Universal Basic Income, and/or better daycare options, would help
Let’s give seniors some incentives to move into apartments, so that young people have housing to raise families
Time we start seeing being hourly wages