Unnamed European and US sources have been briefing for the past 10 days that it may be time to cut a deal with the Kremlin, with Russia advancing along the front line and [Vladimir Putin scoring diplomatic wins in Africa](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/04/ukraine-russia-diplomacy-geopolitics/), South Asia and the Middle East, critical for pushing international agendas.
He is very welcome, he will however find we have total idiots in charge now……..
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DeTHRanger on
I wouldn’t bother if I was him xD
Redpig997 on
That pillock is untrustworthy, also not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
HungryHAP on
“Unnamed European and US sources have been briefing for the past 10 days that it may be time to cut a deal with the Kremlin,”
Why the FUCK would these sources need to remain “unnamed”? If they can’t put their name behind the Russian propaganda that they push, then don’t fuckin quote them.
Key-Lie-364 on
The simple facts are – we in Europe can’t rely on the Americans.
We are waiting to see if they will elect Mussolini tribute act Donald Trump again. A man against NATO, who would parcel up Ukraine on a plate to Putin.
The Brits spent most of 2016 to 2020 declaring to the world how outside the EU they would spread their wings to peruse a ‘Global Britain’ strategy.
No better time lads than right now. Europe needs to take its own security into its own hands, the Americans are more concerned with supplying Israel with bombs for Palestine than Ukraine with bombs for Mariupol.
Them’s the facts, time to act on them.
howsitgoingboy on
So Russia is winning, albeit at a crazy cost in men and money.
The US and EU aren’t prepared to hand off loads of missiles, and the F16’s probably aren’t a big game changer anymore, as they’ve shot down a lot of Russian jets already with manpads.
I hate to say it, but this will have to hit a “deal” eventually. My worry is that Putin takes a breather and comes back for more of Ukraine in 3 years.
Fucking Russians man.
Tank20011 on
Eu is still getting gas and oil from putler, still suking the red tit
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***The Telegraph reports:***
Volodymyr Zelensky [visits Downing Street today](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/10/09/volodymyr-zelensky-flies-to-london-talks-sir-keir-starmer/), more than two and a half years on from [Russia’s invasion of Ukraine](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/russia-ukraine-war/), with support in the West for his war against the Kremlin starting to fracture.
Even Joe Biden and his supposedly hawkish White House staff were [less than impressed with Mr Zelensky’s “Victory Plan](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/03/western-indifference-hung-zelensky-out-dry-ukraine-russia/)”, which US officials complained was more a wishlist for weapons than a strategic masterpiece to defeat the Kremlin.
And despite pressure from Downing Street, [Mr Biden also ignored Mr Zelensky’s pleas](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/09/28/zelensky-plan-convince-biden-ukraine-storm-shadow-russia/) to be allowed to fire Western missiles at Russia.
[Western missiles striking Russian targets](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/13/joe-biden-ukraine-atacms-missiles-storm-shadows/) is central to Mr Zelensky’s vision of how Ukraine will win the war.
Unnamed European and US sources have been briefing for the past 10 days that it may be time to cut a deal with the Kremlin, with Russia advancing along the front line and [Vladimir Putin scoring diplomatic wins in Africa](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/04/ukraine-russia-diplomacy-geopolitics/), South Asia and the Middle East, critical for pushing international agendas.
**Read more:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/10/zelensky-turns-to-britain-in-his-hour-of-need/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/10/zelensky-turns-to-britain-in-his-hour-of-need/)
He is very welcome, he will however find we have total idiots in charge now……..
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I wouldn’t bother if I was him xD
That pillock is untrustworthy, also not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
“Unnamed European and US sources have been briefing for the past 10 days that it may be time to cut a deal with the Kremlin,”
Why the FUCK would these sources need to remain “unnamed”? If they can’t put their name behind the Russian propaganda that they push, then don’t fuckin quote them.
The simple facts are – we in Europe can’t rely on the Americans.
We are waiting to see if they will elect Mussolini tribute act Donald Trump again. A man against NATO, who would parcel up Ukraine on a plate to Putin.
The Brits spent most of 2016 to 2020 declaring to the world how outside the EU they would spread their wings to peruse a ‘Global Britain’ strategy.
No better time lads than right now. Europe needs to take its own security into its own hands, the Americans are more concerned with supplying Israel with bombs for Palestine than Ukraine with bombs for Mariupol.
Them’s the facts, time to act on them.
So Russia is winning, albeit at a crazy cost in men and money.
The US and EU aren’t prepared to hand off loads of missiles, and the F16’s probably aren’t a big game changer anymore, as they’ve shot down a lot of Russian jets already with manpads.
I hate to say it, but this will have to hit a “deal” eventually. My worry is that Putin takes a breather and comes back for more of Ukraine in 3 years.
Fucking Russians man.
Eu is still getting gas and oil from putler, still suking the red tit