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    Walz: „Das Wahlkollegium muss gehen“


    Walz: „Das Wahlkollegium muss gehen“

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4923526-minnesota-gov-walz-electoral-college/

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    4. Boxofbikeparts on

      How about they make it a priority once they are in office to abolish the EC, and also gerrymandering?

    5. Pitiful-Opposite3714 on

      I hope so too but it’s not going to be easy.

      On the Missouri ballot:

      Constitutional Amendment 7
      Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to: Make the Constitution consistent with state law by only allowing citizens of
      the United States to vote; Prohibit the ranking of candidates by limiting voters to a single vote per candidate or issue; and
      Require the plurality winner of a political party primary to be the single candidate at a general election? State and local
      governmental entities estimate no costs or savings.

    6. BlotchComics on

      Republicans: “If there were no electoral college, we’d just change the places we campaign and would still win elections.”

      “Okay, let’s get rid of the electoral college.”

      Republicans: “Fuck that!”

    7. TheDeepStateDirector on

      The President should be directly elected by the people by popular vote.

    8. Laceyberts on

      I think abolishing the Electoral College makes sense; it’s frustrating how a few swing states can decide the whole election when most Americans want their votes to truly count.

    11. Scabrock on

      Every daylight savings time “We need to get rid of daylight savings time!”
      Every presidential election cycle
      “We need to get rid of the electoral college!”
      Every…..damn….time

    12. shwilliams4 on

      The electoral college is set at the number of representatives and senators I think. If you only allow one rep to have 500k citizens, I think the EC can work.

    13. deranged_goats on

      Let’s replace it with ranked choice voting and an actual multi-party democracy. Not this two party system we have now

    14. Tonya3gherty on

      I think Walz is onto something—abolishing the Electoral College could make our elections fairer and reflect the true will of the people. It’s time to move beyond outdated systems that don’t serve everyone equally.

    16. Erogenous_Nectarine on

      With a popular vote, the only way republicans win is by adopting popular ideas.

    17. Divine_Cherryberry on

      While I agree

      A more realistic goal is to overturn The Reapportionment Act of 1929 and uncap the House. Unlike abolishing the EC, which would require a constitutional amendment, overturning that would only require a congressional majority.

      Not perfect as lower populous states would still have somewhat of a heftier vote in the EC (due to two Electoral Votes coming from Senatorial seats).. but it would go a long way in balancing out that disparity.

      Also comes with the benefit of being the “original intent of the founders” that the GOP likes to tout louder than any other. So they should be all for that.

    18. Dogzirra on

      Out of a population of 330 million, only 15 million are needed to determine who will be president. One voter out of 22 people will be that person.

      160 Million people voted in 2020, in one of the highest election turnouts, ever.

      15 million can determine who will be president. That is about one in ten voters.

      This is what the electoral college can do, and why it is such a juicy target for gerrymandering and other corruptions to undermine democracy.

      If the constitution is to unite, it must be commonly seen as being fair. It increasingly is not fair. The parts of the constitution that has been twisted to be unfair needs to be changed, if we are to continue as a beacon of democracy.

      Walz is correct, we can do better.

      Edit add: The 15 million was calculated from the total votes in the 26 least populous states and DC, divided that by 2, and rounded up to give a plurality in each state. (and DC).

    19. jpiro on

      Well, I like him even better now. The electoral college seemed dumb as hell even when I learned about it in middle/high school in the late 80’s. As technology has made counting individual votes and tabulating them nationally simpler and simpler every year, it just gets dumber.

      Kill the EC.
      Expand the house.
      Make DC a state.

      LFG

    21. stapango on

      Pretty unfortunate that this has turned into yet another partisan issue- and it’s purely because Republicans are convinced their candidates can’t win under a fair system that doesn’t disenfranchise millions of Americans. 

    23. Ut_Prosim on

      I get the argument that we don’t want rural votes drowned out by urban. But… I’ve never heard a good explanation for why rural voters should be the only minority to get special considerations.

      Couldn’t you just as easily argue:

      > We don’t want big cities to drown out the vote of rural folks, their needs aren’t the same.

      > We don’t want white folk to drown out the vote of PoC, their needs aren’t the same.

      > We don’t want straight folk to drown out the vote of the LGBT, their needs aren’t the same.

      > We don’t want Chrisrians to drown out the vote of atheists, their needs aren’t the same.

      > We don’t want civilians to drown out the vote of veterans, their needs aren’t the same.

      > We don’t want the elderly to drown out the vote of the youth, their needs aren’t the same.

      > We don’t want the able-bodied to drown out the vote of disabled folk, their needs aren’t the same.

      Seems like each of these are equally good arguments, and each group has legitimate concerns about a tyrant of the majority.

      **But**, only one actually gets a structural advantage in our democracy.

    24. ACrask on

      My stress level during this election year would go from 100 to 0 if it was simply the popular vote, which it should friggin’ be. All the elctoral college is is a way for someone the majority of the country doesn’t want to still have a chance of winning.

    25. garrettj100 on

      If you have a 2/3 majority to get a constitutional amendment through congress, why would you bother with the electoral college?

      Enshrine abortion and end that argument once and for all.  Then put some sane language around the right to bear arms.  Then **don’t** leave interpreting those amendments to five lunatic fringe lifetime-appointed morons and impeach Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh.

      That’s easily a hundred days.

    26. ioncloud9 on

      It does. Its insane that a candidate needs 4 percent more vote nationally to safely win an election. And even then, they can lose because of 10000 people in one particular state.

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