Having the whole time people remember be a slow degradation of quality of life filled with broken promises means they’re going to move away from the parties that contributed to that?
I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.
koolaidkirby on
Not surprising, they’ve seen a decade of Liberal + NDP policies not do much for their cost of living + quality of life.
Saidear on
No, they’re not. The National Post is conflating a dislike of the LPC as support for the CPC. Given that on nearly every position, young Canadians are opposed to the CPC platform you’d be hard pressed to say otherwise
People are disillusioned and don’t care to preserve institutions they see as ultimately having failed them – it’s not shocking. What will be a shock for many older Canadians is a) the degree to which this rage is both deep and broad amongst Canadians under 40, and b) the complete and utter lack of empathy this is breeding when it comes to seniors issues.
TheOGFamSisher on
Maybe some but I seriously doubt young people are going full right wing in mass like these articles claim. If anything majority of this conservative support is simply to get Trudeau out. They have decided getting him out of power is more important then ideology
Mysterious-Job-469 on
Old people get OAS (WHICH IS GOING *UP!!!*) on top of social security and their home equity.
Young people are told to sit on it and spin.
Liberals: WHY ARE WE DYING IN THE POLLS?????????????????? We should keep spamming money at the most privileged, least financially contributing, and most financially secure group in Canada at the expense of the young and working poor, some of the least privileged and financially secure groups in Canada.
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OttoVonDisraeli on
There’s a narrative on the right which some on the left might be unaware of and that is that being right-leaning has become a bit more counter-culture amongst the youth, similar to how progressivism might have once been. Some will say this is reflective of that, but it’s very hard to say. There’s A LOT of stuff out there that talks about Gen Zed being more conservative than their elder generations, but we also have to remember that Gen Zed and Millennials are the first to live through the never-ending culture war where everything is a new front of the battle and where nuance is dead.
If I were a Conservative strategist I would advise to not read too into this newfound plurality of support amongst the younger generations, as we don’t want to mistake dislike of the LPC and desire for change for meaningful partisanship. Wait a few election cycles before claiming victory over these new demographics.
Godzilla52 on
Voters are largely jumping to the CPC because they feel fed up with Trudeau and are desperate for any government that can deliver more positive socio-economic outcomes. Poilievre’s blue wave for instance has less to do with an ideological shift in Canada and more to do with an erosion of faith in the current government.
Looking forward to 2029-2030 etc. I’d expect an incumbent Poilievre government to be in hot water with the electorate due to it’s stance on climate & social issues etc. Now voters are focused on cost of living to the point that those policies are being mostly overlooked. It’s even arguable that largely what kept the CPC out of power in 2019 and 2021 even as the Trudeau government’s popularity waned was the CPC’s Reform wing baggage.
RoyalPeacock19 on
I mean, it should be no surprise that the young are moving in that direction, they feel abandoned by the left so of course they will go to the people who at least nominally care for their main problems.
RudeAudio on
I feel like the more concerning (and valid) trend is the number of young men who are aligning with far-right views and incel/trad wife bullshit.
Healthy-Car-1860 on
**Your Vote** does not equal **Your Values**.
Canada has a long history of ‘voting out governments we dislike’ completely separate from ‘what we value politically.
Also people vote strategically. You might see a person who aligns most with the Green Party actually vote Liberal because its a more effective vote than just signalling green.
Conflating how someone votes with their actual political beliefs implies a very shallow understanding of our democracy. More or less what I’d expect from NatPo, that isn’t trying to understand people, and is just pushing conservative ideology.
SubtleSkeptik on
Ales total sense. If you’re anything up to age 26, your only experience of politics has been continual decline in quality of life, deteriorating health care, and a housing bubble. And the people presiding over this are liberals.
How in the fuck could they turn out to be liberals?
Domainsetter on
People are just tired of Trudeau and I don’t blame them when the party Doesnt care about people under 40 years old
dekuweku on
It’s too early to say based on just polling data for one election cycle.
The Liberals, for various reasons are historically unpopular and also unpopular with the youth. I could easily see a scenario where the conservatives won in 2019 and 2021 and are now in exactly the same situation as the Liberals. There’s nothing fundamentally different with the conservative platform, they are just the next best option ‘not in power’ party for many people who has a realistic chance of forming government.
I note PP’s silence on issues that matter to young people outside sloganeering about housing and jobs and of course the conservatives VOTED FOR increasing the OAS for those over 65, which is a cash handout with no testing at all to the richest segment of the population.
A principled conservative party would have voted against it and maybe even suggest brigning back Harper’s increase in retirement age to show they meant business about generational inequities and relieving the strain on tax payers, but no, they just want to be as vague as possible and be everything to everyone.
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Having the whole time people remember be a slow degradation of quality of life filled with broken promises means they’re going to move away from the parties that contributed to that?
I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.
Not surprising, they’ve seen a decade of Liberal + NDP policies not do much for their cost of living + quality of life.
No, they’re not. The National Post is conflating a dislike of the LPC as support for the CPC. Given that on nearly every position, young Canadians are opposed to the CPC platform you’d be hard pressed to say otherwise
Climate? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/majority-canadians-worried-about-climate-change-1.6964334
Human Rights? https://sencanada.ca/en/sencaplus/opinion/feminism-is-on-the-rise-in-canada-senator-dasko/
https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/canadians-support-protection-lgbt-community-but-support-declining
I can keep going.
People are disillusioned and don’t care to preserve institutions they see as ultimately having failed them – it’s not shocking. What will be a shock for many older Canadians is a) the degree to which this rage is both deep and broad amongst Canadians under 40, and b) the complete and utter lack of empathy this is breeding when it comes to seniors issues.
Maybe some but I seriously doubt young people are going full right wing in mass like these articles claim. If anything majority of this conservative support is simply to get Trudeau out. They have decided getting him out of power is more important then ideology
Old people get OAS (WHICH IS GOING *UP!!!*) on top of social security and their home equity.
Young people are told to sit on it and spin.
Liberals: WHY ARE WE DYING IN THE POLLS?????????????????? We should keep spamming money at the most privileged, least financially contributing, and most financially secure group in Canada at the expense of the young and working poor, some of the least privileged and financially secure groups in Canada.
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There’s a narrative on the right which some on the left might be unaware of and that is that being right-leaning has become a bit more counter-culture amongst the youth, similar to how progressivism might have once been. Some will say this is reflective of that, but it’s very hard to say. There’s A LOT of stuff out there that talks about Gen Zed being more conservative than their elder generations, but we also have to remember that Gen Zed and Millennials are the first to live through the never-ending culture war where everything is a new front of the battle and where nuance is dead.
If I were a Conservative strategist I would advise to not read too into this newfound plurality of support amongst the younger generations, as we don’t want to mistake dislike of the LPC and desire for change for meaningful partisanship. Wait a few election cycles before claiming victory over these new demographics.
Voters are largely jumping to the CPC because they feel fed up with Trudeau and are desperate for any government that can deliver more positive socio-economic outcomes. Poilievre’s blue wave for instance has less to do with an ideological shift in Canada and more to do with an erosion of faith in the current government.
Looking forward to 2029-2030 etc. I’d expect an incumbent Poilievre government to be in hot water with the electorate due to it’s stance on climate & social issues etc. Now voters are focused on cost of living to the point that those policies are being mostly overlooked. It’s even arguable that largely what kept the CPC out of power in 2019 and 2021 even as the Trudeau government’s popularity waned was the CPC’s Reform wing baggage.
I mean, it should be no surprise that the young are moving in that direction, they feel abandoned by the left so of course they will go to the people who at least nominally care for their main problems.
I feel like the more concerning (and valid) trend is the number of young men who are aligning with far-right views and incel/trad wife bullshit.
**Your Vote** does not equal **Your Values**.
Canada has a long history of ‘voting out governments we dislike’ completely separate from ‘what we value politically.
Also people vote strategically. You might see a person who aligns most with the Green Party actually vote Liberal because its a more effective vote than just signalling green.
Conflating how someone votes with their actual political beliefs implies a very shallow understanding of our democracy. More or less what I’d expect from NatPo, that isn’t trying to understand people, and is just pushing conservative ideology.
Ales total sense. If you’re anything up to age 26, your only experience of politics has been continual decline in quality of life, deteriorating health care, and a housing bubble. And the people presiding over this are liberals.
How in the fuck could they turn out to be liberals?
People are just tired of Trudeau and I don’t blame them when the party Doesnt care about people under 40 years old
It’s too early to say based on just polling data for one election cycle.
The Liberals, for various reasons are historically unpopular and also unpopular with the youth. I could easily see a scenario where the conservatives won in 2019 and 2021 and are now in exactly the same situation as the Liberals. There’s nothing fundamentally different with the conservative platform, they are just the next best option ‘not in power’ party for many people who has a realistic chance of forming government.
I note PP’s silence on issues that matter to young people outside sloganeering about housing and jobs and of course the conservatives VOTED FOR increasing the OAS for those over 65, which is a cash handout with no testing at all to the richest segment of the population.
A principled conservative party would have voted against it and maybe even suggest brigning back Harper’s increase in retirement age to show they meant business about generational inequities and relieving the strain on tax payers, but no, they just want to be as vague as possible and be everything to everyone.