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    Die blutige Vergangenheit Polens und der Ukraine überschattet ihr antirussisches Bündnis


    Die blutige Vergangenheit Polens und der Ukraine überschattet ihr antirussisches Bündnis

    https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-and-ukraines-bloody-past-overshadows-their-anti-russia-alliance/

    Von bllshrfv

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    1. vit-kievit on

      >>Some Ukrainian historians put part of the blame for the killings on long-standing Polish repression of Ukrainian national aspirations before the war.

      Well duuuh.

    2. uulluull on

      Actually, it is sad but simply.

      >The **Ukrainian Insurgent Army** ([Ukrainian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_language): Українська повстанська армія, УПА,[romanized](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Ukrainian): *Ukrayins’ka Povstans’ka Armiia*, abbreviated **UPA**) was a [Ukrainian nationalist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_nationalist) [paramilitary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramilitary) and [partisan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partisans_(military)) formation founded by the [Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists) on 14 October 1942.

      UPA is responsible is responsible for the genocide of approximately 100,000 Poles. (or even more if we count usually not counted territories).

      I do not see how Polish army can cooperate with Ukrainian, especially on Ukrainian earth. Will they hold meetings in Bandera halls? Will they march through streets named after other criminals?

      Everything is on the Ukrainian side now…

    3. Sankullo on

      Nah, it does nothing to the anti-Russia alliance. There are people however who lack assertiveness to separate the two issues.
      There is absolutely no reason why Poland can’t be helping Ukraine in their struggle against Russian aggression while at the same time demanding minimum justice for the victims of UPA.

    4. eloyend on

      There’s no overshadowing – there are multiple issues between countries that have to be addressed. Some are older, some newer, some more important, some less, some connect, some divide. Just as usual between neighbors. All are proceeding somewhat independently, somewhat connected and the crux is to try to resolve them as civilized countries, without threats of war or outright war. And we’re succeeding, even if proceeding slowly and with setbacks.

    5. igogoldberg on

      I don’t think the issue of Volhynia overshadows the alliance – it’s too strong of a word. If anything, opening the wound and cleansing it actually gives hope for the better cooperation between the two countries in the future.

    6. the_battle_bunny on

      It is a touchy subject. Ukraine actively tries to build a national identity. And this involves creation of a pantheon of national heroes. The problem is that for Poles large part of said heroes are genocidal butchers. Not just traitors or enemies (that would be normal for national heroes) but people who conducted or at least advocated for genocidal ethnic cleansing.

      Poland has been for years making demand that victims be counted and given a proper burial. Because they still lie in anonymous mass graves. And Ukraine has been consistently denying this basic decency. They usually say that it’s not the right time. Now they cite the ongoing war.
      But the actual reason in my opinion is that they are terrified that the scale of killings would be revealed to be so massive that it would cause their carefully built national myth to be crushed.

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