Odd this, A&E can’t help you the day after (they’re treating emergencies not for blood tests) 111 were useless, but opted not to contact the police?
Depending on what she was spiked with it might not have even been in her system at the time. In neither case was sexual assault detected.
OshaBreaker on
Not to sound harsh here but I’m always somewhat wary of ‘spiking’ stories when people are out with large groups of friends at clubs/bars.
Anyone who’s been at uni within the last decade will know that it’s semi-routinely used as an excuse by people who just get far too drunk and don’t want to face the consequences (I had one housemate admit as much to me a few weeks after the fact).
Look at how quickly the needle spiking myth suddenly generated hundreds of supposed reports despite clearly being impossible in a club environment.
With all the other pressures on them, I can see why the emergency services are reluctant to take it as seriously.
In one to one ‘date environments’ it’s obviously a different scenario, and you can see why that does need to be taken very seriously.
mronion82 on
This is going to sound uncharitable but a lot of young people don’t know how to drink alcohol very well. They get to 18 and really go for it, get pissed more quickly than they anticipated and fail to account for medication they’re taking or whether they’ve eaten etc.
I’m sure there are genuine cases but I’ve been around a few ‘spiking’ incidents that have turned out to be down to inexperience with alcohol rather than drugs slipped into drinks.
Salty_Nutbag on
> waking up in a cupboard.
This has happened to me, too.
Got told I had to go into work the next day as well.
On my day off.
I wasn’t even supposed to be there.
WantsToDieBadly on
‘According to the Metropolitan Police, symptoms of spiking include:
* Confusion
* Nausea or vomiting
* Hallucinations and paranoia
* Disorientation or poor coordination
* Loss of ability to communicate properly
* Memory loss
* Feeling sick or throwing up
* Lowered inhibitions
* Loss of balance
* Unconsciousness
* Problems with vision’
These symptoms are all universal with having too much to drink, it feels like each year after freshers week when a host of inexperienced drinkers take to the bars all these headlines come out. It also doesnt specify the drinks that one person had with the meal, 3 WKDs wont do much but 3 double vodkas with no time to digest the food sure will.
I mean. i get why A&E dont do the tests, its say 12 hours after the incident, and then more hours waiting for a nurse.
The pre drinking culture at uni’s is still widespread too, down a couple shots of jaegers before the club, or a few glasses of cheap cider to get you buzzed and one too many vodkas and coca cola is too much . of course the pre drinks dont count, ‘we only had 3 drinks at the club’ ignoring anything had at the dorms 2 hours ago
Reverend_Vader on
Not sure what they want the emergency services to do here
Investigate it ….. hahaha, dream on, they don’t have the resources to hunt this white whale
A&E will deal with you if you’re fucked up from it, they stick you under obs until it runs through your system
For the majority of people that are spiked (been there quite a few times) you either come round from it not having a scoobie what happened, or go home and grind it out (beat getting spiked with 3 tabs worth of lsd at a funeral wake!)
The first implies she wanted just to be tested to confirm, fair enough but A&E isn’t for that, no doubt you have to go through 111
We had a staffer pricked with a dirty needle out on site last week, they rushed to a&e to be sent off and told its 6 weeks for the tests, you are not getting a drug/tox test via a&e normally
The 2nd woman, that simply sounds like many calls I made to my manager in my 20’s, when I decided to go on the lash instead of working
Neither implied any form of assault or theft or I’d have a different opinion
SaltSatisfaction2124 on
Believe me or don’t
When a needle spiking story hit the news a few years back there was probably between 5 -10 further reports every weekend following it and a few in the middle of the week
None of them turned out to be needle stick.
This was following assessments up at A&E, urine samples
People wildly over estimate these things, when the reality is, you drank too much, or took too much of whatever it is you were taking.
Everyone claimed their situation was different, they knew how alcohol affected them, they felt the sharp pain, the sudden loss of control, a sense of cold coming over them, they didn’t …
Had to have been at least 100+ reports none of which had anything backing them up
Whilst people’s drinks being spiked does happen, it is so rare, and people obsessively want to blame something other than themselves
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Odd this, A&E can’t help you the day after (they’re treating emergencies not for blood tests) 111 were useless, but opted not to contact the police?
Depending on what she was spiked with it might not have even been in her system at the time. In neither case was sexual assault detected.
Not to sound harsh here but I’m always somewhat wary of ‘spiking’ stories when people are out with large groups of friends at clubs/bars.
Anyone who’s been at uni within the last decade will know that it’s semi-routinely used as an excuse by people who just get far too drunk and don’t want to face the consequences (I had one housemate admit as much to me a few weeks after the fact).
Look at how quickly the needle spiking myth suddenly generated hundreds of supposed reports despite clearly being impossible in a club environment.
With all the other pressures on them, I can see why the emergency services are reluctant to take it as seriously.
In one to one ‘date environments’ it’s obviously a different scenario, and you can see why that does need to be taken very seriously.
This is going to sound uncharitable but a lot of young people don’t know how to drink alcohol very well. They get to 18 and really go for it, get pissed more quickly than they anticipated and fail to account for medication they’re taking or whether they’ve eaten etc.
I’m sure there are genuine cases but I’ve been around a few ‘spiking’ incidents that have turned out to be down to inexperience with alcohol rather than drugs slipped into drinks.
> waking up in a cupboard.
This has happened to me, too.
Got told I had to go into work the next day as well.
On my day off.
I wasn’t even supposed to be there.
‘According to the Metropolitan Police, symptoms of spiking include:
* Confusion
* Nausea or vomiting
* Hallucinations and paranoia
* Disorientation or poor coordination
* Loss of ability to communicate properly
* Memory loss
* Feeling sick or throwing up
* Lowered inhibitions
* Loss of balance
* Unconsciousness
* Problems with vision’
These symptoms are all universal with having too much to drink, it feels like each year after freshers week when a host of inexperienced drinkers take to the bars all these headlines come out. It also doesnt specify the drinks that one person had with the meal, 3 WKDs wont do much but 3 double vodkas with no time to digest the food sure will.
I mean. i get why A&E dont do the tests, its say 12 hours after the incident, and then more hours waiting for a nurse.
The pre drinking culture at uni’s is still widespread too, down a couple shots of jaegers before the club, or a few glasses of cheap cider to get you buzzed and one too many vodkas and coca cola is too much . of course the pre drinks dont count, ‘we only had 3 drinks at the club’ ignoring anything had at the dorms 2 hours ago
Not sure what they want the emergency services to do here
Investigate it ….. hahaha, dream on, they don’t have the resources to hunt this white whale
A&E will deal with you if you’re fucked up from it, they stick you under obs until it runs through your system
For the majority of people that are spiked (been there quite a few times) you either come round from it not having a scoobie what happened, or go home and grind it out (beat getting spiked with 3 tabs worth of lsd at a funeral wake!)
The first implies she wanted just to be tested to confirm, fair enough but A&E isn’t for that, no doubt you have to go through 111
We had a staffer pricked with a dirty needle out on site last week, they rushed to a&e to be sent off and told its 6 weeks for the tests, you are not getting a drug/tox test via a&e normally
The 2nd woman, that simply sounds like many calls I made to my manager in my 20’s, when I decided to go on the lash instead of working
Neither implied any form of assault or theft or I’d have a different opinion
Believe me or don’t
When a needle spiking story hit the news a few years back there was probably between 5 -10 further reports every weekend following it and a few in the middle of the week
None of them turned out to be needle stick.
This was following assessments up at A&E, urine samples
People wildly over estimate these things, when the reality is, you drank too much, or took too much of whatever it is you were taking.
Everyone claimed their situation was different, they knew how alcohol affected them, they felt the sharp pain, the sudden loss of control, a sense of cold coming over them, they didn’t …
Had to have been at least 100+ reports none of which had anything backing them up
Whilst people’s drinks being spiked does happen, it is so rare, and people obsessively want to blame something other than themselves