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    Trump habe „auf Verbrechen zurückgegriffen“, um im Amt zu bleiben, nachdem er die Wahl 2020 verloren hatte, sagen Staatsanwälte

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    2. Dianneis on

      What are the chances that a twice impeached convict who stole from a kid’s cancer charity, was found guilty of multiple felonies, fraud, and sexual assault by several separate juries, and killed thousands of his fellow citizens with negligence and self-interest – among many other things – would resort to crimes to do something for his own self-gain? I’m not buying it.

    5. NoPreparationss on

      And you know what? Here we are still trying to convince the ‘undecided’ voters, to make the important and only sensible decision come November.

      This deep into the election cycle and we still have this group of people like these, which Jon Stewart perfectly described, “people kicked in the head by very powerful horses”.

      My sincere apologies if you are reading this but you are not “undecided”, you’re just an attention seeking idiot.

    7. autotldr on

      This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/new-unsealed-court-filing-trump-resorted-to-crimes-after-losing-2020-election/3731853/?amp=1) reduced by 90%. (I’m a bot)
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      > Donald Trump laid the groundwork to try to overturn the 2020 election even before he lost, knowingly pushed false claims of voter fraud and "Resorted to crimes" in his failed bid to cling to power, according to a newly unsealed court filing from prosecutors that offers new evidence from the landmark criminal case against the former president.

      > Special counsel Jack Smith filed a new indictment on Tuesday against Donald Trump over his efforts to undo the 2020 presidential election.

      > Of the more than 1,200 Tweets Trump sent during the weeks detailed in the indictment, prosecutors say, the vast majority were about the 2020 election, including those falsely claiming Pence could reject electors even though the vice president had told Trump that he had no such power.

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    8. PhilKDickens on

      Im not sure this if this has been asked but MAGA claims that the J6 rioters were peaceful, then why did Trump need bullet proof glass that day at the Ellipse speech and not in Butler, PA. To me MAGA knew they were there for violence, they knew Trump was there to stoke it and they probably also knew what they know now that some person with a mental health issue may take a shot at him. They feared the mob devouring its ring leader. This has happened twice now that a MAGA supporter attempted a shot. Makes you wonder about Butler though and why the Secret Service was attacked by MAGA Republicans almost immediately after they figured out they couldn’t fully blame it on the democrats. The Secret Service in retrospect seems like a scapegoat for something more sinister.

    9. 81305 on

      He defaulted back to crime. The guy is a crook who was never able to make it legitimately.

    10. BeckNeardsly on

      >Case 1:23-cr-00257-TSC Document 252 Filed 10/02/24 Page 1 of 165 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA : v. + CRIMINAL NO. 23.1257 (1SC) DONALDJ.TRUMP, : Defendant. * GOVERNMENT’S MOTION FOR IMMUNITY DETERMINATIONS The defendant asserts that he is immune from prosecution for his criminal scheme to overtum the 2020 presidential election because, he claims, it entailed official conduct. Not so. Although the defendant was the incumbent President during the charged conspiracies, his scheme was fundamentally a private one. Working with a teamofprivate co-conspirators, the defendant acted as a candidate when he pursued multiple criminal means to disrupt, through fraud and deceit

    11. captsmokeywork on

      Even in Canada, if some one pulled this stuff we would have brought back capital punishment.

    12. IBAZERKERI on

      i mean… we already knew that. i fucking seent it with my own god dam eyes on J6 watching the news, and live streams.

    13. cookingflower on

      Donald J Trump is a traitor and deserves a traitors punishment

    14. Worried_Quarter469 on

      [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v.United_States(2024)?wprov=sfti1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States_(2024)?wprov=sfti1#)

      Trump’s attorney D. John Sauer argued that the President has absolute immunity from prosecution for all official acts, including assassination of a political rival, unless successfully impeached and convicted by Congress before prosecution.

    15. madzax on

      Seriously? How can this be? This fine honest fellow that is running for president just has to win and pardon himself. You vote for Trump, you vote for a convicted felon? Does America really need that?

    16. IvankaPegsDaddy on

      >President Trump tried to overthrow the United States government.

    17. Agreeable_Bother_510 on

      Yes! He did. Any decent American knows that. My question, are they still thinking it’s ok to put this scum loser in The White House…where the constitution reins?

    18. vursifty on

      I think it was less “resorting to” and more gleefully engaging in

    20. gahfoor223 on

      “In another private lunch days later, Pence urged Trump to accept the results of the election and run again in 2024.

      “I don’t know, 2024 is so far off,” Trump told him, the filing states.”

      How ironic that we’re now in 2024 and Trump is still denying his loss.

    21. thekarateadult on

      If I was a time traveling superhero whose charge was to set right timelines that had gone gravely afoul and had to assume a human name for my federal prosecutor cover identity; I’d pick something like *Jack Smith*.

    23. N3CR0N9 on

      Wake me up when Donny is actually held accountable for his crimes… otherwise I won’t be holding my breath.

    25. ImperfectAsh on

      My YouTube comment got deleted pointing out the parallels between the praises of Hitler and Vance in their early days faster than it took me to type it. I suggested listening to translated Hitler speeches to make up your own mind. They are not against censorship. Period.

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