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“Vance told a racist lie about immigrants during debate”
That’s a bit more honest of a title
According to what Vance said last night, immigrants are the cause of everything that is wrong, ever has been wrong, or ever will be wrong in this country.
Walz tried to call him out on it too.
It’s simply doesn’t make sense the illegal immigrants are flush with cash buying up all the housing and driving prices up.
Schrödinger’s immigrant: poor and sucking up all of our resources, whilst rich and buying up houses with cash offers.
According to Vance the following are caused by illegal immigration:
Job market and low wages
Housing crisis
Healthcare costs and horrible coverage
Inflation
Illegal weapons
Illegal drug use
Crime
Pet cuisine
Mind Hunter season 3 not existing
A temporary second moon
I know I’m missing other things.
Edit due to formatting
I have an issue with this quote from one of the economists:
>“I don’t think [new immigrants] are demanding the same type of dwellings that are pulling up prices,” said Dany Bahar, an economist at Brown University and nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. “These people are not competing for the same households as middle-class Americans.”
The problem here is assuming that housing prices are up only for “middle-class households.” Rent has certainly gone up for plenty of working class people over the last few years, even if it’s stabilized in some places this year. I don’t know why there’s always this weird assumption that “housing” just means suburban homes and not renting. It sounds almost like a denial that there’s a housing crisis affecting so many people.
Now, are immigrants causing it? Clearly they’re not at fault, but it’s tough to think the laws of supply and demand don’t apply to them. Yes, migrants tend to be poor and often live with family, but the more people in an area who want housing of any kind, the higher the price is going to be. That doesn’t mean we should deport them or put the blame on them, though. The issue, as Walz said, is needing more supply of affordable housing.
How many peoples grandparents were immigrants? My grandma immigrated here from nazi Germany and built herself a life.
Was she stealing homes from poor white Americans?
This shit is so despicable and right out of the nazi playbook, non stop, constant scapegoating of a group of people
Firms like BlackRock buying up all the housing in multiple states didn’t help.
“Don’t trust the experts, trust me. It was the immigrants.”
“Don’t trust the videos, trust me. We had a peaceful transfer of power.”
“Don’t look at the reversal of Roe v. Wade, trust me. I care about the right to choose.”
“Don’t look at all the times we tried to repeal Obamacare, trust me. We saved it.”
I’m detecting a theme here…
illegals aren’t cutting taxes for the rich so they can buy all the housing making our lives harder.
Illegals didn’t try to kill democracy on January 6th.
Illegals can’t vote. Republicans are the ones voting to cut medicare medicaid food stamps and education funding.
Republicans are ruining this country. That rapist fuck criminal Donald Epstein Trump is killing this country not immigrants.
Stop printing money for Israel driving up inflation. That isn’t Illegals printing money for Israel.
Republicans are driving Americans to hate minorities so their donors get richer. Fuck Maga and the Republican party.
Republicans did not pass the border bill. Republicans didn’t secure the border under Trump or Biden.
Republicans are clowns Beetlejucie Boebart, Marjorie Space Lasers, Matt Fucks Kids Gatez, Jim Clown Show Jordan aren’t passing laws they are cry baby bitch losers like Trump.
Common sense disagrees with Vance’s simplistic reasoning.
All those illegal immigrants coming in and buying $600,000 homes for cash.
What about the elephant in the room? Are we going to talk about big investors both foreign and domestic buying up the housing inventory and driving up rental prices and home prices? Yes, there’s a shortage in construction; but there’s also an issue with corporations buying up available stock and driving up prices for individual buyers.
There’s also the issue of collusion among investors to charge above market rates across the board for rentals. The DOJ currently has a lawsuit against REALPAGE.
I think he is reading Canadian news. Wrong country bro.
Vance should have tried to attend a few more classes (and stayed awake) at OSU and Yale. He might have learned something useful.
Immigrants are so poor they are eating people’s pets but also buying all the houses
Nope. No where close to truth. Housing crisis started with economic crisis and housing never rebounded
It’s the goddamn corporations buying up all the vacant houses to rent them out at ungodly high rents and so therefore sit empty for years that are causing the housing shortage.
It’s also the goddamn developers that only build 3000 square foot million dollar mini mansions that no one can afford, instead of building smaller, modest, affordable units, that are causing the housing shortage. They also won’t build lower income apartments that aren’t built out of cardboard and cinder blocks but get rented out for outrid high rents.
It’s the goddamn city managers that refuse to zone areas for condos or for manufactured homes, etc, because they don’t want to budge their tax brackets or, dog forbid, older people or first time buyers may move into town.
Immigrants have nothing to do with it. Vance is full of shit.
According to Vance, immigrants caused the housing shortage but at the same time also are to blame for low level wages. Pick a side.
If there aren’t enough homes for all the workers then there aren’t enough homes for all the workers, regardless of who some of them are.
It’s even more laughable that they think that building housing on federal lands is a plausible solution, instead of, you know, *near where the jobs are*.
JD Vance is downright evil. He is a liar every time he opens his mouth. I think the Republican party is actually trying to get it JD Vance, but they’re giving Trump a last ditch stand. In the meantime, since he has so many followers. Trump is like the hook for these Republican shenanigans. There’s so much more behind the hook.
As if we need a fucking economist to point out how dumb this statement is. It’s the same principle as bringing in Neil DeGrasse Tyson to “debunk” flat-earthers. Some ideas are so wrong, and so stupid, that it requires no professional authority to dismiss them.
I’m pretty sure it’s not the destitute refugees trekking across the southern border with nothing but the clothes on their backs who are outbidding me with all cash offers.
“Vance Says X, Experts disagree” would be one of the easiest books to write in history.