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    Tim Walz erzielt nach der Vizepräsidentendebatte einen größeren Umfragewert als JD Vance


    Tim Walz erzielt nach der Vizepräsidentendebatte einen größeren Umfragewert als JD Vance

    https://www.newsweek.com/tim-walz-jd-vance-debate-polling-boost-1962380

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    2. WillingParticular659 on

      The poll referenced in the article was from 574 CNN viewers with a MoE over 5%. 

    3. plz-let-me-in on

      According to [CNN’s instant poll of viewers who watched the VP debate](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/politics/election-poll-walz-vance-debate/index.html), Walz was at 46% favorable, 32% unfavorable (net +14%) before the debate, while Vance was at 30% favorable, 52% unfavorable (net -22%). After the debate, 59% had a favorable view of Walz, with just 22% viewing him unfavorably (net +37%), while 41% had a favorable view of Vance, with 44% viewing him unfavorably (net -3%).

      So while Vance did have an increase in approval after from debate (from -22% to -3%), Walz actually went from +14% to +37% net approval after the debate! His increase in favorability was actually bigger than Vance’s! So much for all the takes from the media that Walz somehow did poorly in the debate.

    4. PlentyMacaroon8903 on

      I don’t know how anyone got a positive feeling about Vance besides he could lie as easily as he was breathing. But he didn’t even seem like he believed what he was saying.

    5. feral-pug on

      The issue with Vance is that he can’t answer a question and he comes across as an insufferable asshole. It’s not a debate club, it’s outreach to the American people. Even on a relatively good night, for him, he doesn’t come across as very human.

      Walz was, as always, incredibly human and relatable. He did a good job providing actual substance and reaching out to people, instead of just standing there telling lies and saying nothing.

      Vance just exudes “not trustworthy” vibes.

    6. Arthesia on

      59% is actually incredible.

      By comparison:

      Walz: 59% (debate viewers)

      Harris: 47.5% (national average)

      Trump: 43% (national average)

      Vance: 41% (debate viewers)

      Biden: 40.5% (national average)

    7. Relevantcobalion on

      I think there’s one clear takeaway from last nights debate: it’s amazing how the adults in the room can have a substantive conversation (mostly) when the orange man-child isn’t present. When your VP looks better than you, that’s not necessarily a *good thing*, unless you’re not counting on the president to be president for his whole term…

    8. LankyGuitar6528 on

      So people like a decent normal guy over a fast talking super slick college educated liar. Weird.

    9. Saint-Benjamin on

      I was a little worried and I still am. But, Vance outed himself as every disingenuous middle manager ever.

    11. roninshere on

      Glad to see Americans are seeing through the bullshit. Let’s hope they don’t vote for bullshit on Nov 5.

    12. hughhuckleberry on

      I find it interesting that MSM is calling out Vance almost en masse for lying so prolificly as he did versus how hard it is for them to admit Trump lies (they say something like “falsely claims” or “wildly speculates”). Walz did really well considering he isn’t a good master debater, but what I really took away from this is that
      1) Vance made Trump look even crazier. The smooth talking lies contrast to Trump’s rambling gibberish lies is night and day. Vance came across as stiff, but I can see how he could tear the fabric of this nation apart
      2) MSM does indeed give Trump multiple mulligans any time he opens his mouth. The amount of articles I’ve seen call out Vance for his smooth and dry lying compared to Trump’s unmistakeable sloppy, messy lies is incredible. MSM is just as weird as Vance/Trump and, on purpose or for clicks, is in bed with Trump for sure

    13. TechieTravis on

      I think that both candidates got a boost simply because people were happy to see a civilized debate. After watching a crazy old man rant and rave about immigrants eating people’s pets, it was good to see Vance be articulate and measured, even if his actual policies are still wack. Walz won on substance.

    14. StrangerAtaru on

      CBC claims Vance had a better debate and Walz was held back. I just hope all the Walz support for yesterday wasn’t just bias.

    15. rhj2020 on

      Even if Vance wasn’t a huge dirtbag, I don’t want to vote for for someone as old as me. Life experience matters.

    16. Knute5 on

      Walz’s words were truer and more sincere, but his speech was more halting, less smooth than Vance. I’d think Vance would get the “not what you say but how you say it” bump, but would suffer the Wednesday-morning scrutiny and the spreading of clips on social media where the content is actually broken down.

    17. ronswansonificator on

      If Tim Walz sold you his used truck, he’d spend thirty minutes telling you everything that could possibly be wrong with it and then insist on replacing the brake pads before he’d sell it to you, just to be safe. JD Vance would fast talk you into a patched together piece of shit and laugh at you when it dumped the oil out halfway to your house.

    18. AntoniaFauci on

      For once, CNN’s contrived panel of “undecided” viewers provided some illuminating insight (even though it’s not necessarily good news)

      The woman who was announced to be pregnant (I hope she agreed to that being mentioned) said she was really impressed to learn Republicans are actually really progressive and supportive of women’s rights. Of course, that’s a gigantic lie, but JD Vance sold it to someone who clearly couldn’t tell he was fully lying. We should all be chilled by how effortlessly he convinced a casual voter that up is down and grass is blue.

      The one guy who is absolutely a Redditor took a different and more accurate read. He was impacted by JD Vance’s complete inability to admit basic truth about the election. He had a brilliant line: “how can I give the Republicans my vote if they won’t even respect it?”

    19. Lo-And_Behold1 on

      Remember to register and vote this year no matter what the odds of Harris winning are! We still need to win on Nov 5!

    20. Brick_Rockwood on

      The debate was like 12 hours ago. Any polling in that time might as well be a Twitter poll. Just go vote

    21. 1white26golf on

      My main takeaway from the article was the trend line. Everything being equal nationally, an increase of favorability of 19 points could tighten the margins even greater.

    22. rounder55 on

      That’s neat and all but what concerns me about debates is much of the analysis isn’t on what the parties will do from a policy standpoint or how much was bullshitted but in how it was delivered. The media looks for sound bites instead of substance candidates will hold true to trying to deliver. They let the bullshitter artists like Trump and Vance go ahead and paint

    24. APointedResponse on

      Imagine voting for someone that is a friend of school shooters. Yikes. Gross! Sad!

    25. lawofthewilde on

      It’s wild to me how little someone running for vice president understands about the functions of the office of vice president

    26. Meringue-Maximum on

      My husband says Walz reminds him of the guy who invited you to his Saturday BBQ and you KNOW you’re going to have a good time at his house. 🙂‍↕️

    29. mrkruk on

      How anyone could favorably view Mr “I’m focused on the future – did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 Covid situation?” Vance is beyond me.

      He’s so focused on the future he needs to talk about the past.

      Also, nobody censored anyone from speaking their mind. You could freely walk around town saying whatever you like on public property and not get arrested or imprisoned by the US. The misinformation campaign on social media had to be dealt with because people were dying horrible deaths based on LUNACY that people were sharing because they were being denialist lunatics.

    30. Deluxeman123 on

      Crazy the amount of bias Reddit has towards the left. Probably all the incels that are on here. Vance mopped the floor with Walz last night.

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