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    Der politisch inkorrekte Leitfaden zur Rettung des ins Wanken geratenen Artemis-Programms der NASA


    Der politisch inkorrekte Leitfaden zur Rettung des ins Wanken geratenen Artemis-Programms der NASA

    https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/heres-how-to-revive-nasas-artemis-moon-program-with-three-simple-tricks/

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    1. Zhukov-74 on

      Eric Berger’s 3 Easy steps to save Artemis:

      * Cancel the Lunar Gateway
      * Cancel the Block 1B upgrade of the SLS rocket
      * Designate Centaur V as the new upper stage for the SLS rocket

    2. megastraint on

      3 easy steps also means the only reason politicians gave NASA money for in the first place. I learned a long time ago that NASA is just a jobs program… the mission isnt the most important part.

    3. Harturb on

      If the point of a moon mission is “just” to put Americans on the moon again, then sure, this makes sense.

      But I question whether this approach would really accomplish much. The article is basically “cancel gateway and all the things needed for it” but actual deep space development and staging areas for lunar exploration are really one of the main long term draws of Artemis. To me it feels like the the article has missed the forest for the trees.

    4. YsoL8 on

      >The space agency’s plans after Artemis III are even more complex. The Artemis IV mission will nominally involve the debut of a larger version of NASA’s Space Launch System (SLS) rocket, a new launch tower, and a stopover at a new space station near the Moon, the Lunar Gateway.

      If a realistic date for Artimis 3 is no earlier than 2028 (and I agree) then Artimis 4 is likely no earlier than 2033/4. I have a bridge to sell you if you think moving blocks is going to be any more straightforward than validating block 1. My guess is any base that does come out of this won’t appear until about 2040.

      As for China, it doesn’t really matter, a single base doesn’t somehow make anyone emperors of the Moon. Doing this kind of thing at all will remain a project of national pride and cost for decades even with these new reusable rockets coming in.

    5. slothboy on

      If anyone hasn’t seen it yet, Destin from Smarter Every Day gave a presentation to NASA about an outsider’s perspective to the issues with Artemis. It’s very well done and worth a look if you need further context for above article.

      [https://youtu.be/OoJsPvmFixU?si=2QkuLZT4XpjYpgPr](https://youtu.be/OoJsPvmFixU?si=2QkuLZT4XpjYpgPr)

    6. QP873 on

      SLS is a joke in general at this point. If companies really want deep-space optimized systems, put a cheap, mass produced ICPS on a Starship booster. It would need to be a completely different upper stage in order to accommodate the difference in velocity between Artemis core stage and Superheavy at separation, but no one should be looking at trying to make the bottom half of Artemis work. It is a hole that money goes into and that is it.

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