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If you switch the genders on this, there would be an enormous amount of (rightful) outrage.
There should be the same here.
Christ! I’m actually shocked there is an article highlighting discrimination against men, usually you’ll struggle to get an acknowledgement let alone a published article from a reputable newspaper. Genuinely shocked. A move in the right direction though, fair play.
We are always told slippery slope arguments are bullshit by people who know what they *want* to happen is a bit further down said slippery slope than where we are at right now.
These people *want* to be allowed to discriminate against men and more specifically “cis het white guys” they think it’ll be cathartic and that it’s justified because of their own simplistic and propagandized understanding of history.
These people don’t want equality they want revenge and the ability to be oppressors. That’s what all of this is about
Riot Girl bands performative feminism becoming misandry eventually is a tale as old as the genre. Kathleen Hanna has been called out on it multiple times.
As a male, and frequent solo gig attendee, this is one of my worst nightmares lol.
That being said, I’ve not once been made to feel like a creep – by either security or fellow gig attendees – across multiple venues and acts, so my initial feeling upon reading this is that unfortunately as an all female band my assumption is that they must have had a security tip off ahead of time.
Sounds like they’ve had trouble before and they identified single men as the troublemakers. Which means the issue is really whether we can discriminate against a group because of the actions of some of its members. I generally see that as being a bad move.
Wait until you hear about European nightclubs.
This shit has always happened, they just did it too blatantly
You do not get to harass a certain group of people and then justify it under the guise of safety concerns. How is that any different from racial profiling?
Given the band’s history I imagine something was said to the venue (who have no previous record of this intrusive behaviour) i won’t speculate as I don’t know what, if anything was said but if it emerges something was said, then claiming ignorance or that there was a misunderstanding is not a good enough excuse.
From what was stated in the article the venue would be very lucky if they don’t have anyone filing a lawsuit against them.
Another man wrote: “I rocked up there tonight at 8.45 on my own, no queue, I got asked how long I had liked them for, and to name my favourite song. I thought it was a bit strange and the first time I’ve ever felt like I’m on mastermind to get into a gig. **Now I’ve read this I understand why now.**”
…now that he’s read what? Seems like a paragraph is missing.
No one actually listens to this band, they’re just the newest industry plant.
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They want to perpetuate gender inequality, fine, but raging scumbags like Andrew Tate use that sort of thing as ammunition to spread their misogyny, not excluding other misogynistic aspirants. Can’t have your cake and eat it, I’m afraid.
I bet the Guardian published that article with gritted teeth
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Unless TLDP come and speak out against this heavy handedness you’ve got to believe they’re complicit with it.
It’s a joke really.
Women think this is equality, its not and they justify it because as a group they have experienced thus behaviour but two wrongs don’t make a right, this is gross.
If nothing else it seems bonkers to turn away people who aren’t that in to the band but have bought a ticket to check them out anyway. Attracting new fans? Not for us, mate.
Horrible discriminatory behavior. This shit should have ended for everyone a couple of decades ago.
Just shows the significant rise of causal misandry throughout the mainstream media and entertainment industry.
Will be accused of being toxic fragile males, followed by “women have it worse”
As usual we get apologists for poor treatment of men. You should be ashamed.
This band already has a ‘rep’ for misandry, the instruction likely came from them.
I’m a woman. They way these men were treated was discriminatory and appalling.
To the band: Do you think you can choose who your fans are?
To the venue: I was planning a visit. Assure me you’re not going to do this again.
“Just go to concerts alone bro. What’s the worst that could happen?”
Back in the day, I went to see Le Tigre at the Barfly in Glasgow.
This is back in like 2006 or 2007, I think. I was standing in the queue, and a guy on his own got knocked back ahead of me, he seemed totally sober and a bit upset, I heard him saying to folks it was because he was a guy on his own.
I had been talking to some people near me and thankfully, I got in, though the gig wasn’t that great.
It was put on by an LGBT focused promoter, I think and it was back a while ago so different times and attitudes, but it was still a bit eye opening.
Funny reading the comments in this thread about this being unacceptable but the thread last week about Stop and Search for a different demographic was common sense…