Ich bin also kein Neuling, was den Kauf und Verkauf gebrauchter Sachen in der Schweiz angeht, sondern mache das schon seit Jahren, hauptsächlich über Facebook, Tutti und Ricardo! Ich war immer ziemlich zuversichtlich, was den Umgang mit diesen Sachen und Betrügern angeht … aber dieses Mal war ich ziemlich dumm und naiv.
Ein „Typ“ (Frank Peier) in Buchs SG verkaufte eine Computergrafikkarte (RTX4090) für 1100 Fr., neu kostet sie 1600-2000 Fr. und ich weiß, dass es in diesem „Geschäft“ viele Betrüger gibt und normalerweise erkenne ich sie sofort, aber dieses Mal schien es nicht so zu sein und so schrieb ich ihm und alles schien normal, ich sah mir sogar die Fotos bei Google usw. an.
Wir vereinbaren, dass er mir die GPU per Post schickt, da er mir eine sehr glaubwürdige Quittung von MediaMarkt gegeben hat! Dann schicke ich ihm eine Anzahlung von 200fr per TWINT, wie ich es mehrmals in beide Richtungen getan habe… später verlangte er 200fr mehr, weil seine Frau Angst vor dem hohen Risiko hatte… Ich bereute bereits alles, aber am Ende schickte ich die 200fr trotzdem per TWINT, aber an seine Frau… Kurz gesagt, er hat mich danach geghostet und blockiert… Nach dem Stress des ersten Tages bin ich mir jetzt durchaus bewusst, dass ich mein Geld nicht zurückbekomme, aber jetzt ist meine Frage:
Lohnt es sich, das zur Polizei zu bringen? Werden die irgendwas unternehmen? Ich habe die Telefonnummern, Namen, Adresse, Konto und Quittung usw.
Lohnt es sich, persönlich vor Ort vorbeizukommen?
Ich werde hier das Rezept und den Namen offenlegen, weil warum nicht …
Danke für alle Einblicke!
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Definitely go to the police and let them document everything. Even if nothing comes from it directly it will still help them build a stronger case if the guy ever gets caught later on.
Always try it. He has twint, so he has a number, so he has a bank account. Give them all your infos, and hope for the best.
I think it is always worth reporting to the police. You have an account you sent the money to, at the very least they might red flag those accounts.
I would never trust that method for such an amount.. you have experience but still, a purchase like that I would do only in hand. Sorry for the money to lost
I hope you are above the age of 40.
You should report it to the Police, yes, even if you don’t get your money back there will be reports and that may lead to something one day.
You should also remove the fake invoice, it may not be the real name of your scammer but may be the real name of someone. Same for going there personally. You may end up threatening an innocent, and then you will be the one facing court. The only real thing you got, is a phone number.
Remember: If it’s too good to be true, it usually is. Also go to the police.
Shouldnt be a big problem; go to the police and report the number to them. Most probably a fake name on the address. Also contact your bank and tell them about it.
Please give feedback how it worked out for you
Could you somehow verify: If this guy is really existing in Buchs under the phone number? And if so: Is he really dealing the card or did a 3rd person scammer somehow get the receipt and plays foul?
Anyways, contact police for potential fraud.
Got scammed similarily. I went to the police. Never saw my money back but the lady went to prison. I was told she was merely a “prête nom” for african scammers.
The twint account connected to a number and a bank account. If those are fake too then there’s more criminal acts at hand than just scamming you. Absolutely go ahead and give the police all the information.
Also i would try to call the number from a random phone at work (not a mobile number) or something, see who answers and then tell them that you are whatever (dentist, DHL, Post, Bank, Insurance) and go with “am i talking to mr. [random name]?”, if the scammer is dumb he’ll answer with “no its Mr. XXX” if he just says no then ask who are you talking to then and if he never booked service XY with your company? Eventually tell him that you maybe got the wrong number and say goodbye.
€dit: The “why not” reason for exposing this might be that Mr. Peier is a real person but not the scammer or it is a case of identity theft.
First, the invoice is clearly fake. TVA is 8,1%, not 8%, therefore is a forgery.
Second, go to police and report the scam. You may not have your money back, but they can stop him to do it again.
Aye, Police.
Maybe in the future, you ask if you can pick it up – if silly excuse you know it’s scam.
If he agrees, you can still ask for a sending by Post.
I always pay after I have the item in my hands and is of the expected/agreed state.
If they ask to pay up front for anything I just report them and block them.
I had an incident on Ricardo with a TV, real nice deal for a tv that had less than an year, It was half the price from when it was new but it was too good to be true, they asked for a advance payment and I said no need as I will pick it up personally and would like to see if the device works or not. They tried to sucker me into “reserving” it in case they got a better deal on Tutti or on Market place and I just told them to eat sht and reported them to Ricardo.
Never pay upfront for something you don’t know it exists and it’s not from a trustworthy source, I know I know some websites even legit ones do nasty things but you have much much less chances of getting shafted.
Switzerland is nice but the level of thrust is too high nowadays
You have plenty of information to supply to the police, best of luck 🤞
TWINT really needs to do something about the criminality that they are hosting…
I am sory to hear this but the first warning sign that you ignored WAS the always biggest one… the low price. If you KNOW (as you did) that a new high demand item is advertised so far under the standard price then you should immediately doubt the legitimacy of that item and apply the rule: “If it look too good to be true…”.
When you factor in the request for a “deposit” (which no-one does) and then a second deposit (dude wtf, really?) then this was literally a huge red flag waving in your face.
In the end you fell for an OBVIOUS scam for the exact same reasons that everyone else does… you were too desperate to save some money that you ignored all common sense.
I’d remove the “personal information” urgently, whether it’s the actual person on the other end of the scam, a fake identify, a man in the middle or a real person completely unrelated to the whole thing. Immediately.
Then you walk to the police.
This exact same thing happened to me. It was for a Dyson airwrap. I twinted 100 believing the invoice they shared with me from Galaxus. The remaining was supposed to be paid after shipping but he/she suddenly turned and wanted everything then. I knew I had been scammed.
I think the biggest red flag which I ignored was denying to meet in person even when I was very flexible with my availability and was ready to travel anywhere within Switzerland to pick it up.
I didn’t follow up with anyone but would encourage to report even if nothing happens. Sorry it happened to you!
For 1k chf I would only do this in person
A) Go to the police, file a report ASAP. If they received the money through Twint they can be identified through phone number.
B) Take down the picture, or he can sue you for violating his privacy (if that even is the actual person that defrauded you
One thought: let Media Markt know. Perhaps they want to take some legal action for unauthorized use of their logo etc.
Would be nice to have these scammers get punished from multiple sides.