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    Geben Sie Ihr Telefon niemals der Polizei / Digitale Ausweise machen es verlockend, den Führerschein zu Hause zu lassen – aber das ist ein gefährliches Risiko


    Geben Sie Ihr Telefon niemals der Polizei / Digitale Ausweise machen es verlockend, den Führerschein zu Hause zu lassen – aber das ist ein gefährliches Risiko

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/24/24252235/police-unlock-phone-password-face-id-apple-wallet-id

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    1. Repulsive-Finger-954 on

      That’s if the cops even assume you have a digital ID.

    2. JC3FL on

      In the state of Florida, police are permitted to search an individual’s phone without a warrant during an arrest. This is based on the Supreme Court case of Riley v. California in 2014, which established that cell phones are not subject to the same immediate search exceptions as other personal items.

      However, there are certain limitations and requirements for these searches.

      Probable Cause: Before conducting a phone search, law enforcement must have probable cause to believe that evidence or contraband will be found on the device.

      Immediate Threat: Police can only examine a suspect’s phone if they reasonably suspect it may contain necessary information related to imminent threats such as terrorism or harm to others.

      Scope of Search: Officers can generally only look through the content and data visible on the screen at the time of arrest. They cannot delve into hidden files or access additional digital information without a warrant.

    3. fellipec on

      Dunno how works in USA, but here you open your app and show a qr code that the cop should scan to check on his phone your driver license is legit, because, of course, there are fake driver license apps people use to go in 18+ places.

      To be honest the last time I was stopped by the cops they checked all just with my license plate, their apps have all the info.

    5. reddit455 on

      >Don’t ever hand your phone to the cops 

      you need to get your phone out.. and present it to the reader (NFC device)

      you have to authenticate again to use “the (credit) card”… similarly you have to authenticate to expose your ID…

      your license number/address etc is not shown to the ***bouncer***. just your face, dob, and bar code so they can make sure your ID is not fake. fake ID market is dead.

      we literally use the same technology to protect our bank accounts.

      the whole idea is not to hand anything to anyone.. you just tap, like at the store.

      to set it up, you scan the front/back of your license, then take a selfie so they can match your face.

      took a couple hours for the state to complete the setup.

      Californians can now download mobile driver’s license on Apple Wallet

      [https://abc7.com/post/dmv-introduces-mobile-drivers-license-apple-wallet-allowing-californians-store-iphones-watches/15327744/](https://abc7.com/post/dmv-introduces-mobile-drivers-license-apple-wallet-allowing-californians-store-iphones-watches/15327744/)

    6. thatfreshjive on

      Tangentially, try scanning the larger barcode, on the back of your license, using a QR code app.

      It’s disturbing, and why I don’t let cashiers scan my ID for purchases.

    7. sh20 on

      Are you legally obligated in America to carry ID with you when driving? In the UK there’s no requirement to carry it, but if you are [caught speeding] and you don’t have your license with you, you do have to present it within 7 days at a station of your choosing.

      I never carry ID with me because it’s just something to lose, and I’m definitely not going to be carded for entry to a pub or club etc.

    8. -haven on

      The digital license is a backup at best to help verify whom you might be be if you forget/lose your main ID.

      Happy to have the option but no way in hell would I ever give my phone willingly to someone like that. I’ll hold it and you can scan it while it’s in my hand.

    9. Living_Pay_8976 on

      Digit IDs are just something for them to control you over you’ll own nothing and be happy.

      We aren’t going to have any IDs or cards anymore it’ll all be through technology. What happens when power goes out? Or card readers are down? Literally it won’t last very long before we see repercussions of people making a stand and lose access to everything digital.

    13. dont_panic80 on

      Same thing goes for proof of car insurance. Progressive wants you use their app instead of mailing printed cards. I have to print them out myself now. There’s no scenario I want to voluntarily hand my phone over to the police during a traffic stop.

    14. ZaggahZiggler on

      Cop here: I have zero interest in touching your gross ass toilet phone

    15. thewildbeej on

      Don’t post this one r/apple. Everyone who thinks this are conspiracy theorist on the level of Alex Jones. /s they’re wild over there. Saw one guy get bashed for suggesting maybe we shouldn’t give cops additional ability to access our privacy. And yeah I know the license function doesn’t allow you to explore the phone but it’s not something I still think is a good idea 

    17. Migamix on

      I’ll lock my phone and refuse access, my phone contains nothing incriminating. and they can just waste everyones time trying g to get access to it. not to mention my little trick to wipe and soft brick the phone if I don’t have it in expected locations or conditions and im able to validate it. 

    18. ew435890 on

      I’ve handed my phone to a cop before for this reason. But I always use guided access and have it set to a shortcut where I click my lock button 3 times to activate it. I have it set to lock after 5 minutes, and the bottom right of the screen where they would access the menu options has touch disabled, so they can’t get into the menu and see my email and places to change passwords and account info. Once you enter guided access, the only way to get out is to enter my 6 digit PIN, and they can only access the digital ID app for the 5 min before it auto locks.

    19. Tactical-Crayon on

      Iphones have guided access basically locks your phone to a single app or screen could be useful if your worried about that it works great for when you give phones to kids or anyone you don’t want snooping around

    20. Sturdily5092 on

      This is exactly what’s going to happen when people start using these apps to keep their driver’s license and insurance on their phone… they will just hand it over to the cop and in most cases, unlocked.

      I have this almost happen to me while crossing Arizona on my way to California… I was stopped for going 4 miles over the limit (really). I messed up and didn’t have my insurance card but I had the app and when the cop asked for my insurance card I automatically open my phone then thought “oh shit” I realized what was happening. I acted like I didn’t have the app and just got the ticket for not having proof of insurance which I then got dismissed by sending a copy of the card by email to the court.

    23. Mr_Badger1138 on

      Never EVER give the cops anything you don’t absolutely have to. Don’t TELL them anything you don’t absolutely have to either.

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