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    Sonderermittler kann im Fall vom 6. Januar „substanzielle“ neue Beweise gegen Trump vorlegen, urteilt Richter


    Sonderermittler kann im Fall vom 6. Januar „substanzielle“ neue Beweise gegen Trump vorlegen, urteilt Richter

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/24/politics/special-counsel-trump-substantial-evidence?cid=ios_app

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    1. whatarereddits on

      >The filing is likely to be the largest chunk of the case against Trump that the public will be able to see before the 2024 presidential election, and could include what prosecutors know of the former president’s interactions with then-Vice President Mike Pence and other moments in late 2020 and early 2021.

    2. Rated_PG-Squirteen on

      Get ready for some juicy tidbits from Mike Pence’s grand jury testimony. Donald may just have his biggest Truth Social meltdown ever.

    3. llahlahkje on

      Oh Lordy, there are tapes!

      (and it ain’t even F5 Friday, time to preorder some spare keyboards)

    6. albiondave on

      Loving the “unexpected consequences” aspect of this being allowed specifically because SCOTUS sent back to the lower courts the instruction to review the evidence and decide if it’s admissible.

    8. notcaffeinefree on

      Apparently Trump’s lawyers filed a 9-page document in opposition…where the entirety of the opposition was:

      >Defendant’s argument against the requested page limit expansion comprises a single statement that the Government’s request “would quadruple the standard page limits in this District.” The rest of the nine-page opposition rehashes Defendant’s position that immunity briefing should not begin until he files a motion to dismiss several months from
      now. The court has already addressed the scheduling objections Defendant raised when he was
      given an opportunity to do.

      Basically “it’s too long and it should wait while we delay even more and eventually file a motion to dismiss”.

    9. Class_of_22 on

      Thank you, judge Chutkan.

      Apparently, Trump’s attorneys are scared shitless about this because according to them it is information that would be damaging “at this point in our political history”, which is basically saying that it will probably damage Trump’s campaign beyond repair.

    10. NotaRussianbott89 on

      Wow a slim glimmer of hope that he will be held accountable. I’m not holding my breath but it would be nice .

    11. autotldr on

      This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/24/politics/special-counsel-trump-substantial-evidence?cid=ios_app) reduced by 77%. (I’m a bot)
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      > Special counsel Jack Smith this week will be allowed to file hundreds of pages of legal arguments and evidence gathered in the 2020 election subversion and January 6 US Capitol attack criminal case against former President Donald Trump, a federal judge ruled Tuesday.

      > Judge Tanya Chutkan's decision allows the Justice Department to put into the court record parts of the investigation against Trump that are not yet publicly known.

      > Chutkan of the DC District Court, in a six-page opinion, said she would allow such an outsized briefing because the Supreme Court, in its recent decision to give Trump's actions while president immunity from prosecution, has directed her as the trial judge to look closely at facts in the case to decide if some allegations could move forward to trial.

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    12. Sure_Quality5354 on

      Just as a quick and not so friendly reminder, the trump trials were supposed to start in may/june before the maga court declared him legally a king and delayed his trials as long as possible

    13. nvboettcher on

      For those wondering when!

      >The large court filing from prosecutors is set to come on Thursday. At first, it will be filed under seal. But Chutkan will have the ability to release a version of it to the public as part of the court file. The Justice Department plans to provide a redacted version that could be quickly released by the judge, likely before the November presidential election.

    14. Fusion_allthebonds on

      Adjudicating more evidence in a trial about an attempted coup before the defendant seizes more power to try again, is not only necessary, but moral.

    15. whatproblems on

      new evidence like all his public statements? 😂 wonder if they have some private messages too

    17. Wombat_Privates on

      It’s nice to see the judge is using the supreme courts decision against trump. (I don’t know how to make the fun blue box so I’ll just copy and paste

      “Chutkan of the DC District Court, in a six-page opinion, said she would allow such an outsized briefing because the Supreme Court, in its recent decision to give Trump’s actions while president immunity from prosecution, has directed her as the trial judge to look closely at facts in the case to decide if some allegations could move forward to trial.”

    20. Kind-City-2173 on

      Can’t wait until Trump loses the election by a decent margin so there aren’t court battles and then his court cases are full steam ahead

    24. Responsible-Room-645 on

      If what the American people have already seen so far about Trump isn’t enough to obliterate his chances, nothing in the filing will either. America is well and truly screwed.

    28. falderol on

      So they can be released even if he wins the election?

      Even if he wins, he loses.

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