Selenskyj: Trump weiß nicht, wie man den Krieg beendet, und Vance ist zu radikal

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/23/zelensky-trump-doesnt-know-how-to-end-war-and-vance-radical/

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  1. Trump has never accepted that he would have to deal with the war as president. In his mind, it never happens and he should never have to answer questions in the hypothetical about it.

    When you press him, he swears that he’ll end the whole thing in 24 hours but won’t tell you what you’re giving up.

  2. TheTelegraph on

    Donald Trump doesn’t know how to stop [the war in Ukraine](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/russia-ukraine-war/), despite claiming he could end it on his first day as US president, Volodymyr Zelensky has said.

    In his harshest criticism yet of the Republican presidential nominee, the Ukrainian president also described [Trump’s running mate JD Vance](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/15/jd-vance-create-springfield-pet-eating-immigration/) as “dangerous” and “too radical”.

    “His message seems to be that Ukraine must make a sacrifice,” Mr Zelensky said of Mr Vance in an [interview with the New Yorker magazine](https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/volodymyr-zelensky-has-a-plan-for-ukraines-victory) before he flew to the US to present his “Victory Plan” to the White House this week. “But I believe that we have shielded America from total war.”

    Mr Vance has been criticised by supporters of Ukraine for [pushing a peace deal that consolidates the Kremlin’s control](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/07/20/our-existence-depends-on-us-election-result-ukrainian-mp/) over captured territory.

    Mr Zelensky said such a deal would disrespect the sacrifices that Ukrainian soldiers have made, appease Vladimir Putin and encourage other dictators to invade their neighbours.

    “Whichever president or vice-president raises this prospect, that ending the war hinges on cementing the status quo, with Ukraine simply giving up its land, should be held responsible for potentially starting a global war,” he said.

    Mr Zelensky added that he had held more “positive” conversations with Mr Trump who he said had promised to continue to support Ukraine’s military.

    Ukrainian officials have said they are concerned Trump would turn off the supply of [weapons Joe Biden has approved for Ukraine](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/04/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news23/), in an attempt to force Mr Zelensky to negotiate with Putin.

    But the Ukrainian president insisted Putin could not be trusted and [Trump, despite his public stance](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/04/trump-gets-rapturous-reception-major-us-republican-conference/), would not be able to strike a quick deal to end the war.

    “My feeling is that Trump doesn’t really know how to stop the war even if he might think he knows how. With this war, oftentimes, the deeper you look at it the less you understand,” he said.

    Mr Zelensky’s intervention in US politics comes with polls showing Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, building a slender lead over Mr Trump ahead of the election in November.

    Mr Zelensky began his tour of the US on Sunday with [a visit to a weapons factory in Pennsylvania](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/09/23/zelensky-begins-us-visit-at-ammunition-factory/) producing 155mm artillery shells to be sent to the frontlines in Ukraine, telling employees that “the democratic world can prevail” because of their work.

    He is due to meet Mr Biden in the White House on Thursday to present his “Victory Plan”, which he will also share with Ms Harris and Trump.

    **Read more from The Telegraph:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/23/zelensky-trump-doesnt-know-how-to-end-war-and-vance-radical/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/23/zelensky-trump-doesnt-know-how-to-end-war-and-vance-radical/)

  3. prestocoffee on

    Yet their supporters don’t care about it at all…in fact they want chaos and disorder

  4. Cantthinkofnamedamn on

    Vance may be radical, but he is neither righteous, tubular nor gnarly.

  5. JustAMan1234567 on

    Let’s not forget that Trump tried to blackmail Ukraine by withholding aid until Zelensky investigated Biden.

  6. reddittorbrigade on

    Trump is going to stop the support for Ukraine so Russia can invade Ukraine.

    That is Trump and Putin’s strategy. Partners in crime.

  7. Eatthehamsters69 on

    Trump will just accept whatever proposal Russia suggest.

    You see, Putin flattered Trump by saying he was smart or something, and therefore he owes him allegiance since he believes the respect/admiration is mutual.

    Just look at the debate, Kamala insulted his ego by pointing at crowd sizes and his brain just crashed and he went into deranged shouting, and the opposite effect if its praised I suppose. And I think it was during the topic of immigraton, which is where Trump puts 99% of his focus on, and it completely derailed into madness.

    Utterly fucking insane that so many Americans can’t see this.

  8. Venturis_Ventis on

    Zelensky knows that the probability of continued US aid to Ukraine will be much smaller under Trump/Vance than under Harris/Walz. Cheeto threatened to pull off NATO more than once during his first term ffs.

  9. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/23/zelensky-trump-doesnt-know-how-to-end-war-and-vance-radical/) reduced by 86%. (I’m a bot)
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    > Donald Trump doesn't know how to stop the war in Ukraine, despite claiming he could end it on his first day as US president, Volodymyr Zelensky has said.

    > "My feeling is that Trump doesn't really know how to stop the war even if he might think he knows how. With this war, oftentimes, the deeper you look at it the less you understand," he said.

    > Mr Zelensky didn't divulge details of the plan during the New Yorker interview but he said that failing to back his plan would extend the war.

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  10. Highthere_90 on

    Trump dosnt know how to on a lot of things, ending a war is far beyond his reach

  11. Polly_slattern on

    Zelenskyy’s critique of Trump highlights the broader frustrations with leadership styles.

  12. Ok-Permission-2687 on

    Sorry Zelenskyy, he does. Trump will just side with Russia and allow them to steamroll Urkraine.

  13. kungfoojesus on

    I disagree. Trumps knows exactly how he would end the war. He would stop funding Ukraine and give Putin however much of Ukraine he wants and then support a puppet president installed by Putin. It’s actually much worse than “not knowing” how to end the war.

    And Vance is a sycophant. He has no other discernible qualities.

  14. IThinkTheClockIsSlow on

    Does no one remember the First Impeachment? I remember First Impeachment of our twice impeached former President and Felon.

  15. For Zelensky to say that is a big deal. It means he’s quite confident Kamala Harris will win. Prior to this he has had to suck up to Trump and carefully word his statements in case Trump won in November.

  16. He’s confident Harris is going to win. Would never say this otherwise.

  17. YamahaRyoko on

    Trump’s idea of ending your war is by letting Putin take your country. Conflict over.

  18. Trump is just going to channel his inner Regan

    “Mr Gorbachev…you can leave this wall up as long as you want!”

  19. Not surprising, since Trump’s answer in the presidential debate (on how he’d end the war) was basically “I just would” and nothing else.

  20. Imaginary-Aerie-232 on

    To be fair Zelenensky doesn’t know how to end it either. 

  21. Madmandocv1 on

    Oh Trump does know how to end the war. It involves the total assimilation of Ukraine by Russia, but it isn’t unknown.

  22. Dick_Dwarfstar on

    I’m hoping this helps push the Pennsylvania vote more towards Kamala. Lots of Eastern European immigrants and first, second generation in many parts of PA. Not just Ukrainians, but Lithuanians, Poles, etc. And nobody likes Putin. Lots of Russian immigrants don’t like him either, which is a good reason for them to be here and not over there. I’d like to think that most of these folks are already aware of Trump’s relationship with Putin, but having Zelensky continue to speak on our election is not a bad thing. PA is an important state to win, and the Eastern European vote is not nothing here.

    Edit: Poland’s president Duda was in Doylestown yesterday encouraging Polish Americans to get out the vote, and Trump was supposed to be there on stage w him, but he cancelled. There was no official endorsement from Duda either way, but having him on stage w Trump certainly would’ve sent an unofficial message. Idk how it affects things now, but all the more reason why Zelensky’s endorsement of Harris matters.

  23. ButterPotatoHead on

    Trump knows exactly how to end the war. He’ll give Putin whatever he wants.

  24. Acceptable-Bus-2017 on

    Trumps plan to end the war would be Ukraine hand over all POWs and their politicians in exchange for Russia keeping all acquired territory and promising not to take anymore (probably)

  25. DetectiveOk3869 on

    Trump can’t make a deal to secure the southern border but thinks he can make a deal between Ukraine and Russia.

  26. Global_Permission749 on

    Correct. Trump doesn’t know how to end the war.

    He will be told how by Putin.

    Putin will pay Trump a few million to send the US military to Russia to fight with Russians against Ukraine.

  27. ThickGur5353 on

    Zelensky should be careful what he says about Trump/Vance. There is at least a 50% chance Trump wins. And Zelensky does not want Trump as an enemy.

  28. Trump knows how to end the war, but it wouldn’t result in Ukraine winning. When he says “the war never would have happened” and/or he would “end it in a week”, what he means is he would let Putin do whatever he wants without US opposition.

    We cannot afford that. If Ukraine falls, particularly due to lack of NATO or, specifically US, support, Putin will be moving on Poland within a year. Once that happens, we would have no choice but to deploy troops. China would be emboldened by Russia’s success, see an opportunity to exploit our distraction, and go after Taiwan and Indonesia.

  29. Inner_Rope6667 on

    Trump doesn’t know much of anything. Trump is the one who instigated Iran into its latest level of belligerence when he took out that Iranian Quds commander. 

    Trump will gladly sell Ukraine down the river because that’s the kind of dirtbag Trump is and always will be. 

  30. asupremebeing on

    Trump’s does have a plan. Unfortunately, it is Putin’s plan and it involves land in exchange for an unstable and disingenuous peace.

  31. Ill_Cream7763 on

    Oh Trump knows how to end the war.

    He’s going to make Ukraine surrender.

    I’m sure Zelensky knows this but he can’t come out and say it unfortunately.

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