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    Da eine nukleare Option unwahrscheinlich ist, hat Putin Mühe, seine roten Linien zu verteidigen


    Da eine nukleare Option unwahrscheinlich ist, hat Putin Mühe, seine roten Linien zu verteidigen

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/22/putin-russia-red-lines-nuclear-threat-retaliation/

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    2. astarinthenight on

      Putin is a coward. He knows if one flake of fallout lands on a NATO country we will instigate article 5 and glass Russia

    4. lurk779 on

      Time for brown lines.

      To honor the line of 💩, that he will leave behind on the final run to the bunker.

    5. bone_burrito on

      Article 5 aside, any nuclear fallout in Ukraine will most likely hurt Russia as well. It’s not even remotely a good option for them.

    6. RobertEdwinHouse38 on

      They’ve seen the tests, they’ve seen the intercepts, they’ve watched their weaponized “satellites” fail.

      Both China and Russia have seen the US Missile Shield working along with its other intercept capabilities.

      This is why no nukes from Putin and no Taiwan invasion from China.

      So in response, they shit a BRICS. Then found out their collective bargaining can only dent the US hold on global trade by 18%. Leaving each of them with the same percentage reduction across their economies to inflict the damage.

      Anyone else unclear as to why both of them are pouring full assets into US Elections, infrastructure infiltration, and Donald Trump?

    7. Redsit111 on

      While everyone else is saying fuck Putin I just want to give a shout out to Ukranians. Fucking ironclad balls those people.

    9. digitalluck on

      Non-paywall link: https://archive.ph/z73ZQ

      > A Russian academic with close ties to senior Russian diplomats agreed, calling the nuclear option “the least possible” of scenarios, “because it really would lead to dissatisfaction among Russia’s partners in the Global South and also because clearly, from a military point of view, it is not very effective.”

      > “All this discussion of the nuclear threshold overexaggerates the threat of such a type of escalation and underestimates the possibility of alternative options,” the academic added. “Since the West has a global military infrastructure … a lot of vulnerable points can be found.”

      That last part is pretty interesting. Sabotage operations are already underway against Western nations, so that isn’t really a new option for Russia. I wonder if that’d push them towards proxy-related retaliation to try and enforce *any* of their red lines that eventually get crossed.

    11. Menethea on

      Unlikely doesn’t mean impossible, and these are nukes we are talking about. I remember this country going to war (as well as near war) several times for far more remote and theoretical contingencies – Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Libya, etc.

    12. skepticalbureaucrat on

      I’m a PhD in math and don’t even pretend to understand the ramifications of nuclear fallout. That takes a LOT of knowledge and education with a degree of uncertainty.

      Nobody wins in a nuclear war.

    15. FrutaAndPutas on

      Does anyone have a way to bypass the paywall. Really interested in reading this

    16. Leather-Map-8138 on

      In the settlement, we agree you can keep both Moscow and Saint Pete, and you agree that Rostov-on-Don and Sevastopol are now and forever part of Ukraine.

    19. Boatster_McBoat on

      What percentage of his missile siloes are empty / rusting 1960s tech because oligarchs took money and didn’t perform required services? Does Putin even know?

    20. whennaminggoeswrong on

      At some point, all these red lines just add up and turn into a Red Square.

    21. thedayafternext on

      They’re now black lines because the Kremlin red pen has ran out of ink.

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