More evidence that Betteridge’s law of headlines doesn’t apply to Trump.
Dwayla on
I have no problem saying he most definitely is.
Far_Animal6970 on
The world’s first one-word article. “Yes”
SpillinThaTea on
Didn’t read the article. But the answer is unequivocally yes.
BlotchComics on
He wanted to use the military against protesters…
MintBerryCrunchJr on
Yes, he’s also a moron, a racist, and a criminal. Oh, and he was also best buds with Epstein.
Funny_Sprinkles_4825 on
He fits the definition of an authoritarian fascist pretty well.
In before conservatives show they don’t know what the definition of socialism and Marxism is
pervocracy on
Yes, *by his own description.* His stated goal is to restore national greatness, his methods for doing so include re-establishing social hierarchies based on the characteristics people were born with, and his aesthetics are based on traditionality, dominance, and masculinity.
“Fascist” isn’t an empty insult here, it is the word for that type of politics.
KnownAd523 on
Fascist, misogynist, racist, cheater, liar, huckster, and cult leader.
Adorable-Database187 on
Yes, next question.
Rude_Tie4674 on
Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Holden_Coalfield on
he’s an amoral transactionalist
Expalphalog on
Yes. Next question?
think_i_should_leave on
Yes. But fortunately for us, he’s among history’s top-most incompetent fascists, which means he’ll be losing the contest for the presidency and checking into prison soon.
DanielTheEunuch on
Yes
BalzacTheGreat on
Is water wet? Is the sky blue? Do priests diddle kids?
Although Trump doesn’t seem to score high on the first measure (conformity to the traditional societal norms and values of the middle class), as he’s not focused on the middle class, his “Do as I say, not as I do” approach to life seems to indicate he’s a shedload more middle class than he’d like to admit to his fanbase.
He also scores fairly robustly on the other measures:
* Authoritarian submission: a passive notion towards adhering to conventional norms and values
* Authoritarian aggression: punishing and condemning individuals who don’t adhere to conventional values
* Religion and Ethics
* Superstition and Stereotypy
* Power and “Toughness”
* Anti-intraception: “rejection of all inwardness, of the subjective, the imaginative, the tender-minded, and of self-criticism”
* Destructiveness and Cynicism: generalized hostility, vilification of the human
* Projectivity: the disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things go on in the world; the projection outwards of unconscious emotional impulses
* Sex: exaggerated concern with sexual “goings-on”
efequalma on
He’s just too lazy to be a fascist, but motivated just enough to enable it.
thejamielee on
He is too much of a fucking idiot to be one intentionally, but regardless of that lack of self-awareness the enablement and behaviors are all there.
Yodan on
This headline should disqualify any news source who hasn’t figured this shit out 8 years ago.
aaprillaman on
He might not be one ideologically (I’m not certain he has a consistent ideology), but he uses the language and rhetoric that a fascist would use and the result is that he is making a larger and larger space for them in our discourse and normalizing them.
BlueCollarBeagle on
He’d be a drag queen on a unicycle if he thought it would bring him the adoration of the mob and a mob to grift.
Royal-Pay9751 on
Why do the media still give this guy the EASIEST ride
Oh could it be for clicks
awrinkleinsprlinker on
He uses Sorel’s fascism. Read Sorel. It becomes extremely obvious. The us against them myth is more important than facts.
SuperGenius9800 on
Yes. Musk also.
RufussSewell on
If Trump lost the election 30% to 70% would he still opt to be president?
If the answer is yes, then he’s a fascist.
Spoiler: The answer is absolutely yes.
UsedCouchesAndGloves on
Yes
AnamCeili on
YES, trump is a fascist.
steveschoenberg on
That question was fully answered on 6 January 2021.
KennyShowers on
The differences between Trump’s brand of politics and dictionary definition fascism are not the things anybody cares about.
Okay, he probably won’t nationalize major industries like Mussolini and Hitler, maybe that doesn’t make him a textbook fascist, but the problems people have with fascism are stuff like the political violence, jailing political rivals, demonizing select demographic groups to galvanize support, and valuing blind loyalty over merit.
Yea he checks all those boxes for sure.
Logical_Parameters on
Answer: the Republican Party is fascist. They do not believe in democracy.
No-Attitude-6049 on
Well, there’s a reason he once kept a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside.
Glory_at_Sea on
~~Is~~ Donald Trump **is** a fascist ~~?~~ !
padizzledonk on
I mean….He is an Authoritarian Nationalist who “Otherizes” all who oppose him into “Enemies” and is willing to use and promote violence to achieve the results that suit him
Yeah….pretty much a textbook definition of a Fascist
Experiment626b on
The entire Republican Party is AT BEST diet fascism. We need to quit acting like it’s just Trump. He’s just the only one that gets a pass on being so open about it.
nyli7163 on
Yes. He’s also a moron.
Alpacadiscount on
But you’re putting the fascist’s life in danger by calling him a fascist!!
Aggressive_Knee7420 on
Why is this even a question? Of course he is. Trump is a fascist by definition. Fascism – 1) a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
2) a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
An example of Infamous fascists in history:
Benito Mussolini (1883–1945)
Adolf Hitler (1889–1945)
Francisco Franco (1892–1975)
Donald J Trump (1946 – )
archangelxero on
This just in, water is wet
InternationalFlan732 on
The author says Hitler became a fascist because those who gave him power didn’t think he was a fascist, but that Trump is not a fascist…
The author also doesn’t account for the internet and cults of conspiracy theorists it enables. Sure, Trump doesn’t have a personal standing army, but international hoards dominating the information space is more relevant in modern times.
I think the author is naive. Measured with today’s standards Trump is functionally a fascist, and at 78 the likes of Vance and Musk would certainly not stop short of realizing the full capacity of that definition. Now is the time to use the word fascist, not when the Maga SS is knocking on our doors.
Trump has called for the death of disloyal staffers and the shooting of protestors. He was talked down in his first term.
Groundbreaking-Step1 on
How are we defining fascist? In my understanding, I’d say yes, him and his allies, if in power, would work to set up a fascist government.
TAC1313 on
What a ridiculous question.
Of course he is.
Ging287 on
Yes. If you don’t see it, you might be living in 1984.
deeddqwd on
I’d say if it looks smells and rapes like one
technothrasher on
Does a bear shit in the woods? Is the Pope Catholic? Will people argue about whether water is wet?
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Really? We’re still asking this question in 2024?
More evidence that Betteridge’s law of headlines doesn’t apply to Trump.
I have no problem saying he most definitely is.
The world’s first one-word article. “Yes”
Didn’t read the article. But the answer is unequivocally yes.
He wanted to use the military against protesters…
Yes, he’s also a moron, a racist, and a criminal. Oh, and he was also best buds with Epstein.
He fits the definition of an authoritarian fascist pretty well.
In before conservatives show they don’t know what the definition of socialism and Marxism is
Yes, *by his own description.* His stated goal is to restore national greatness, his methods for doing so include re-establishing social hierarchies based on the characteristics people were born with, and his aesthetics are based on traditionality, dominance, and masculinity.
“Fascist” isn’t an empty insult here, it is the word for that type of politics.
Fascist, misogynist, racist, cheater, liar, huckster, and cult leader.
Yes, next question.
Does the Pope shit in the woods?
he’s an amoral transactionalist
Yes. Next question?
Yes. But fortunately for us, he’s among history’s top-most incompetent fascists, which means he’ll be losing the contest for the presidency and checking into prison soon.
Yes
Is water wet? Is the sky blue? Do priests diddle kids?
Despite the criticisms levelled at it,[ Adorno’s 1947 ‘F-Scale’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-scale_(personality_test)) has always been my go-to metric for answering this kind of question.
Although Trump doesn’t seem to score high on the first measure (conformity to the traditional societal norms and values of the middle class), as he’s not focused on the middle class, his “Do as I say, not as I do” approach to life seems to indicate he’s a shedload more middle class than he’d like to admit to his fanbase.
He also scores fairly robustly on the other measures:
* Authoritarian submission: a passive notion towards adhering to conventional norms and values
* Authoritarian aggression: punishing and condemning individuals who don’t adhere to conventional values
* Religion and Ethics
* Superstition and Stereotypy
* Power and “Toughness”
* Anti-intraception: “rejection of all inwardness, of the subjective, the imaginative, the tender-minded, and of self-criticism”
* Destructiveness and Cynicism: generalized hostility, vilification of the human
* Projectivity: the disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things go on in the world; the projection outwards of unconscious emotional impulses
* Sex: exaggerated concern with sexual “goings-on”
He’s just too lazy to be a fascist, but motivated just enough to enable it.
He is too much of a fucking idiot to be one intentionally, but regardless of that lack of self-awareness the enablement and behaviors are all there.
This headline should disqualify any news source who hasn’t figured this shit out 8 years ago.
He might not be one ideologically (I’m not certain he has a consistent ideology), but he uses the language and rhetoric that a fascist would use and the result is that he is making a larger and larger space for them in our discourse and normalizing them.
He’d be a drag queen on a unicycle if he thought it would bring him the adoration of the mob and a mob to grift.
Why do the media still give this guy the EASIEST ride
Oh could it be for clicks
He uses Sorel’s fascism. Read Sorel. It becomes extremely obvious. The us against them myth is more important than facts.
Yes. Musk also.
If Trump lost the election 30% to 70% would he still opt to be president?
If the answer is yes, then he’s a fascist.
Spoiler: The answer is absolutely yes.
Yes
YES, trump is a fascist.
That question was fully answered on 6 January 2021.
The differences between Trump’s brand of politics and dictionary definition fascism are not the things anybody cares about.
Okay, he probably won’t nationalize major industries like Mussolini and Hitler, maybe that doesn’t make him a textbook fascist, but the problems people have with fascism are stuff like the political violence, jailing political rivals, demonizing select demographic groups to galvanize support, and valuing blind loyalty over merit.
Yea he checks all those boxes for sure.
Answer: the Republican Party is fascist. They do not believe in democracy.
Well, there’s a reason he once kept a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside.
~~Is~~ Donald Trump **is** a fascist ~~?~~ !
I mean….He is an Authoritarian Nationalist who “Otherizes” all who oppose him into “Enemies” and is willing to use and promote violence to achieve the results that suit him
Yeah….pretty much a textbook definition of a Fascist
The entire Republican Party is AT BEST diet fascism. We need to quit acting like it’s just Trump. He’s just the only one that gets a pass on being so open about it.
Yes. He’s also a moron.
But you’re putting the fascist’s life in danger by calling him a fascist!!
Why is this even a question? Of course he is. Trump is a fascist by definition. Fascism – 1) a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
2) a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
An example of Infamous fascists in history:
Benito Mussolini (1883–1945)
Adolf Hitler (1889–1945)
Francisco Franco (1892–1975)
Donald J Trump (1946 – )
This just in, water is wet
The author says Hitler became a fascist because those who gave him power didn’t think he was a fascist, but that Trump is not a fascist…
The author also doesn’t account for the internet and cults of conspiracy theorists it enables. Sure, Trump doesn’t have a personal standing army, but international hoards dominating the information space is more relevant in modern times.
I think the author is naive. Measured with today’s standards Trump is functionally a fascist, and at 78 the likes of Vance and Musk would certainly not stop short of realizing the full capacity of that definition. Now is the time to use the word fascist, not when the Maga SS is knocking on our doors.
Trump has called for the death of disloyal staffers and the shooting of protestors. He was talked down in his first term.
How are we defining fascist? In my understanding, I’d say yes, him and his allies, if in power, would work to set up a fascist government.
What a ridiculous question.
Of course he is.
Yes. If you don’t see it, you might be living in 1984.
I’d say if it looks smells and rapes like one
Does a bear shit in the woods? Is the Pope Catholic? Will people argue about whether water is wet?