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47 Comments
That’s disturbing!
>Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance has shared some details about the Trump-Vance campaign’s health care plan, and it appears to allow insurers to charge more for preexisting conditions.
Cool cool cool.
This needs to be blown up, and put on billboards in swing states.
After abortion, they’re now coming after healthcare !
After waiting almost 10 years to hear his idea of a replacement healthcare plan, and it’s designed to allow his corporate donors the ability to increase premiums on pre-existing conditions?
As expected, he found a way to once again be the benefactor while screwing Americans.
Is there anything these fuckers won’t completely make worse. I don’t even hope for betterment, just leave some shit alone. I know the answer but their need to fuck everything up is completely sickening. Insurance companies are not hurting. They are actively profiting off making shit worse and denying coverage whenever they can.
There is no plan. Kamala’s been running for a little over a month and the media is griping about the lack of detail in her plans. Trump has been basically continuously running for or being POTUS for 9 years and he still hasn’t revealed any details for healthcare or infrastructure. Because he has no plans. He is a malignant narcissist. His only plan is to repeal ACA because it’s a huge part of Obama’s legacy, and Obama’s jokes at a press dinner gave Trump a narcissistic injury so he has held a grudge for 10 years. He doesn’t give a shit about Americans’ healthcare he cares about destroying Obama’s legacy.
What comes around, goes around.
Cutting the price of car insurance in half, but doubling the cost of health insurance.
Apart from the policyholders who are affected, my guess is the insurers are totally unhappy to be drawn into this sinkhole.
Ah, so it’s classical fascism. Discriminating against the sick and elderly in the name of the “natural order” while inflating corporate profits.
The Republican healthcare plan has always been to repeal the ACA, but they don’t actually want to do it because once you get beyond the Obamacare label it’s incredibly popular, and disproportionately benefits right-leaning demographics.
Vance admitting that, and explaining in plain language that their plan would make insurance more expensive or even completely inaccessible for older people, is politically even stupider than “concepts of a plan” because there’s no ambiguity for people to give them the benefit of the doubt.
It’s not just bad policy, it’s a massive campaign own goal.
Not even Trump wants to keep this fetus. too bad.
You had me at “JD Vance” and “Atrocious”.
So this is his concept of a plan?
So gut the plan. Ok, let’s see how we’ll that goes.
These guys have got to be off their rockers. Alienating older people by making healthcare extremely expensive or making it inaccessible to older people, is complete shit. One thing they forgot to account for, is that younger people may end up having to pay for their parents healthcare. So how does this make it more affordable for younger people? The little Orange Felon needs to be put in prison n the couch lover needs to crawl back under the rock he came from.
You know those pictures of Civil war combat surgeons from the 1860’s? Yeah … that.
They want to charge old people a lot more, old people skew republican.
Old people die off, which means fewer Republicans.
They’re so afraid of gay people, immigrants, and uppity wimmins that they’re willing to give up healthcare and social security to round up migrants to interment camps, push gays back in the closet, and force females back in to the kitchen… barefoot and pregnant.. What might actually get their attention is to inform them that their SSD (disability) income is also on the chopping block. A lot of these MAGAs yelling about other people getting free stuff are actaully collecting SSD themselves..
Which is worse, “concepts of a plan” or the one Vance is suggesting? Guess I’d claim no plan rather than admit to that particular concept…
And if you had COVID you’re going to be paying even more for insurance.
JD believes in the time honored concept that insurance should be available only to people who don’t need it.
Haven’t read, but let me guess — China AND Mexico will pay for our entire countries health care through tariffs, and they will LIKE IT?
Deregulating the insurance market. Well I’m sure insurance companies would never make junk policies that don’t cover squat or cite “preexisting conditions” as reasons not to cover or jack up the cost
Yeah, take us back to the days you were afraid to seek help, because it might discover a condition, and then no one else would cover that in the future unless you pay $$$.
Because of “pRe ExIsTiNg CoNdItIoNs” I was never able to find let alone afford health insurance until the ACA took effect. Literally saved my life.
These scumbags want to go back to denying people coverage because they (in my case) were born with a benign tumor.
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The little detail is that it’s a plan to care about your health, not a health care plan. Just a concept of a plan
With all that has been proposed by Trump, how would it even be remotely possible that he wins? It would not make sense for almost anyone out in the masses.
America’s healthcare is a joke. Being human is a preexisting condition to insurers.
Everyone has pre existing conditions that an insurer will use against you. Been to the doctor, ever? Guarantee that they used a diagnostic code that will later be used against you. This is a ploy to charge even more on premiums and deny treatment.
The US for profit healthcare would love to just pick healthy people to insure. And it used to be that before Obamacare.
We will NOT go back. Vote for Harris.
Before the ACA was passed, Republicans insisted it was not the government’s place to get between a doctor and their patient. They said that was exactly what ObamaCare was – the government making your medical decisions.
Oh, how times have changed – the GOP has inserted themselves into our private bits and are killing people by denying Healthcare to women.
Forward, people. Not back.
We’re not going back
Trump doesn’t have a healthcare plan
Obviously this is a horrible plan and there’s no doubt Trump and Vance would do the absolute worst possible. But, pulling the most expensive care out of the private insurance pool into a government funded plan isn’t a bad idea. That said, I’d prefer a full public health care system like the rest of the world.
>deregulating insurance markets
Uh, imagine how smooth as a baby’s bottom your brain has got to be to see these words and feel anything but a chill down your spine. I hope the Republican war on regulation has not been so successful with their base that they don’t understand how *absolutely horrifying* this would be.
The full plan or just a “concept of a plan?”
We can vote for better healthcare.
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Kamala Harris will need the support of elected federal, state, and local officials for more than two years to keep getting things done.
Protecting the rights of every American. Building our infrastructure for the future. Creating manufacturing jobs to build a stronger middle class. Improving Social Security not ending it. Supporting workers and unions. Expanding Medicare, Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act. Addressing the climate crisis. are just some of the reasons to vote for the democrats this year and every year going forward.
**GET OUT AND VOTE AND KEEP VOTING EVERY YEAR.**
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I work in healthcare. If this stupidity passes, the healthcare industry will collapse. The ACA covers more Americans and lowers costs for everyone, as there are fewer uninsured people, who, through no fault of their own, are unable to pay their medical bills. It’s a deeply unfair system still, this will only make it so much worse.
The pre- existing conditions clause of the ACA was passed before insurance companies could get their hands on the kind of information that social media sites have been harvesting for the last 15 years. Insurance companies ability to understand your health is scary and accurate. Don’t give up this hard won benefit
Preexisting conditions used to include pregnancy so if you lost your job, another insurance company could refuse to pay.
Trump doesn’t make plans. He prefers schemes and stratagems.
There is a pattern here.
Trump tells people whatever he thinks sounds good, without any regard to whether or not it is truthful.
Vance tells the people what they actually intend, albeit sometimes unintentionally.
It’s a health care denial program.
Being alive is a pre-existing condition. It’s not if you will get sick, but a matter of when. I went 50 years and boom cancer struck, I purchased my policy in December when I became eligible and was suddenly diagnosed in January. Without that insurance I would be dead.
The Republican healthcare plan is the same as it was a decade or so ago.
1) Don’t get sick.
2) if you do, die quickly.
JD Vance’s hardline stance on abortion is deeply concerning to many.
Very cool. I couldn’t purchase health insurance when I was 40 anywhere. I was basically begging a company to take my money and no one would. My pre-existing conditions? Being 40, intentionally losing 60 lbs, and elevated blood pressure.
That’s it! All those companies advised I get on Medicaid or my states healthcare plan. I’m in no way rich, I didn’t own a home but we had enough. I had a job that offered no insurance. I made too much money for state programs. So fuck me I guess.
I scraped up the cash for my doctor visits, and one of them was a suspicious mammogram. I had to make the decision that I wasn’t going to ruin my family with expensive cancer treatments, so I made the choice to die if the test was positive. It turned out to not be cancer, but I had to go through that awful decision process.
That is what removing pre-existing condition protections does to people. And I was and am a healthy adult!
Fuck trump and all of his regressive bullshit. The ACA saved so many lives. This is pure evil.
Exactly why are people voting to be worse off under Trump. I don’t get it