Sensible Daten der US-Bomber F-22, F-35 und B-2 an China, Russland und den Iran weitergegeben

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/f-22-f-35-b-2-bombers-sensitive-data-leaked/amp/

41 Comments

  1. Tnargkiller on

    > These breaches **occurred as RTX employees traveled to China,** Russia, Iran, and other nations, raising concerns about the protection of classified information.

    How about disallowing staff of stealth jet manufacturers from traveling to territory of known adversaries.

  2. People love to freak out over this shit but the truth is that if it was too secret to leak, the jets wouldn’t be usable in the first place.

    You could probably send every tech document of a F-35 to russia/china and they wouldn’t be able to recreate one until like 2050.

  3. twirlingmypubes on

    >RTX disclosed all of the alleged violations voluntarily

    This ain’t a cherry tree, George. You don’t get points for fessing up after giving the enemy our secrets.

  4. ThePantsMcFist on

    Would be wild if this was just an op, make a big deal about leaking false data, run it in the media, dress it up like a major slip and in the meantime your adversaries are operating with bad assumptions.

  5. insert_name_here_ha on

    Just cause you know about it doesn’t mean you can do shit about it.

  6. Uhhh_what555476384 on

    US arms manufacturers taught the Germans dive bombing, soooooooo…. nothing to see here.

  7. funkypunk69 on

    Don’t worry the ex pres had a few boxes of sensitive stuff just laying around as reading material while taking a dump.

    A good portion of the population didn’t care then. I’m not sure they will understand or care now…

  8. Healthy_Ad6253 on

    At this rate it won’t be long until we’re trying to steal tech secrets from China

  9. And the RTX Global Compliance Officer still has a job. Hmmm, a retail worker gets fired 11 times over something similar.

  10. Cherry_Crusher on

    Competent contractors don’t allow employees to travel international with work laptops

  11. Opposite_Ad_1707 on

    Sounds like a slap on the hand. Complete bullshit. They should disbanded and all responsible tossed in prison for treason.

  12. Zealousideal_Bad_922 on

    What exactly is the reason to carry around sensitive information on business trips? Should I be carrying around every secret I have with me at all times? On a similar note, why inform EVERYONE about it when you find out? wtf guys, did we learn nothing from BOTH Death Star goofs??

  13. FreeWilly1337 on

    One of these strange areas where defence contractors actually have an incentive to leak certain technologies to adversaries about half way i to the product lifecycle. The Government then needs to build a replacement and guess who they are going to come to. 200m is nothing compared to the revenue a replacement cash cow will generate. You just simply price the $200m fine in.

  14. Oh shit.. Everyone was waiting on reddit a data leakage from Turkish bought S-400. Turkey must never get its paid birds. We must kick USA from NATO, too because of this data leakage.. wait.. what..??!!

  15. ZookeepHoudini on

    Those americans should be confiscated and put in a room for an undetermined amount of time.

  16. FilthyUsedThrowaway on

    Fined the company $200 million then immediately reduced the fine by $100 million if the company spends the $100 on upgrades to their own security.

    WTF?

  17. TookEverything on

    I’d be surprised if Russia could afford to build even one using this information by the time we upgrade to newer tech.

  18. Cheeeeeseburger on

    TBH it seems like they could all use the help. Because all of those planes are decades old at this point and the NGAD (which will likely now be fielded before 2030 because of Russia, China and Iran’s bullshit) could make mince meat out of all of them.

  19. getembass77 on

    They can’t build one anyway. Russia would build a prototype but couldn’t build a working combat ready aircraft, china would build a wing of them but none of them would be stealth, and Iran would…….I guess build a cardboard mockup?

  20. Mission-Dance-5911 on

    It feels like no information is safe anymore. Why aren’t there more hackers that actually stop hackers? I know dumb question, but that’s why I don’t make the big money.

  21. I see this going a few ways.

    One, the leak was legit, and China has some level of data on this stuff. I’m not too worried because they are a nation that largely copies through ignorance, and this often leads to repetitious failures, sometimes catastrophic.

    Two, the leak was a ploy in that the information “looks” legit, but it’s a ruse to waste time and spend a decade of development towards false ends, significantly slowing down progress on any military programs.

    Three, the leak was legit, and they have enough to accurately replicate designs with success. Shucks, but the tech is now old, we know all the weaknesses, and we’re already past this generation of stuff. By the time anything goes live, it’s already outdated and countered.

    None of these are specifically great for China. All kind of waste time and money. There IS some learning, but if the battlefield is changing, you might invest in entirely the wrong things. Also, you’re coming into a tech area where you are extremely inexperienced. We might think of the F-22 as new and shiny still, but it’s already a quarter century old. The nation developing the tech has decades of practice and tactical planning. For as effective the equipment may be, it’s already tactically ineffective against the ones who developed it.

    This still is not a good thing, but it’s less bad than getting hold of anything truly in development.

    And again, what got leaked could have been a known event with poisoned data. That’s the risk China faces towards this, and they would need the skill set required to know better. This is where they often lack, or at least shortcut.

    China also has another big problem: tech. They are a massive volume manufacturer of common items, but they are a terrible tech manufacturer. They often rely on external companies and nations to design, build, and supply high tech products. Now we’re talking about trying to clone an advanced aircraft. With what? What are you actually going to put in it? Even if you clone it, if it’s not functionally competitive with the true counterpart, the plane is basically useless.

    This is why nations should always invest in education, attracting and maintaining high skill people, and nurturing this environment. These are the people that are going to truly innovate and come up with brilliant stuff. You’re just not going to have an attractive academic space under an oppressive regime. They…often don’t go well together.

  22. Fightingkielbasa_13 on

    But…. Did this really happen? Or was it a ploy to give false info?

  23. XB_Demon1337 on

    I mean, if China/Russia/Iran think that they can take the F22….I will gladly watch. The Kid needs to eat.

  24. The casual way that treason is regarded is mind-boggling. In my day, the US government terminated spies. Unfortunately, people will die because of this and other breaches.

  25. Doesn’t make sense to me how these clowns are able to travel outside the country to adversaries and still maintain a security clearance.

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