Das ist der Albtraum, über den wir reden: das Szenario einer besiegten Ukraine und einer anschließenden Invasion im Baltikum des Institute for the Study of War (ISW).

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19 Comments

  1. Bull_Bear2024 on

    If Russia invaded Ukraine, on the pretense of “protecting” Russians speakers, why not invade other countries that also have Russian speakers especially if they used to “belong” (think of every country occupied after WW2) to Russia.

    Leaving aside Putin’s willingness to sacrifice 100,000s of actual Russian citizens for this fallacy, in his head this is what GREATNESS / LEGACY looks like.

    We shouldn’t underestimate what he considers rational…. We need to listen to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland… We ignored their fears before, they lived under this madness.

  2. Mountain_Analyst_333 on

    Aren’t most of these units decimated with extreme losses of equipment and material?

  3. Worth_Comfortable_99 on

    Ahm… it’s year 3 of war and they took (checks notes) two very small towns that are essentially ruins. Both within a few miles of the frontline.

    Tell me, how many kilometers ‘til the border with Romania, for example?

    Exactly…

  4. Aggravating-Yak-5583 on

    They could try for sure but at this point their armies would be completely eliminated within days by air forces alone

  5. But you know that this whole “Baltics next target” is just political game ?

    Baltics are in NATO, and the statements that all leaders repeat that Baltics are next, are only to motivate EU for stronger military support, if you do the math, attack on Baltics would be Art.5 and basically a fall of ruzzia.

    In the most real scenario, muscovite would attack Georgia, Moldova and Kazakhstan next, eventually take over Belarus in the end.

  6. No-Copy-496 on

    Ok, this is off topic but people who use the color blue to show land on a map are just as annoying as the russian leadership!

  7. Disastrous-Nobody127 on

    They couldn’t even rush to Kiev…….the Russian military is not capable of successfully maintaining such a wide front. Especially against NATO forces.

  8. Conscious-Pension234 on

    What kind of fever dream are they having at isw i feel like their reports have become more deranged by the week

  9. night_riderr on

    I don’t get why there is no projection on situation where Ukraine loses all territory and Hungary exits NATO and joins russia. That way russia would have land access to Serbia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Austria that aren’t in NATO. Given russians tried coup in Montenegro, they might reach Adriatic sea.

  10. Former US Army soldier now resident in Ireland. Looks like I need to up my PT just in case.

  11. Pretty-Round348 on

    Russia wouldn’t make a dent passed the countries that were former USSR. They got nothing left and can’t even beat Ukraine. Fuck off with the fear mongering. But yes this would be catastrophic if it happened. I just can’t make sense as to how it would. Even if China and North Korea joined. Eventually they’d have to use nukes and that’s bad cause modern day China never been in or won a war, same with North Korea and any other commies.

  12. ForwardBat6438 on

    Russia can’t take on NATO and fight a massive insurgency in Ukraine at the same time so if Ukraine capitulates, by their calculus, Russia’s only option is to eradicate the Ukrainian identity via cultural genocide. Once that is complete, the Ukrainians will be press-ganged en masse into the Red Army.

  13. Gilligan67 on

    This is the reality facing Europe.

    Why it’s taken so long to figure this out is mind boggling

  14. Conscious-Run6156 on

    Well where will the Russians get enough tanks and artillery though🤔

  15. ContributionDry2252 on

    Poland, and the two new NATO members just across the sea might disagree with the plan.

  16. InternationalLog9059 on

    While russia would lose, it would be a tragedy. The West cares about human lives, while russia doesn’t. So in a way russia ”wins” because they are trading expandables with non-expandables. Only way to prevent this is help Ukraine now.

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