Länder, die Staatsatheismus praktizieren.

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  1. Mexico never practiced state atheism. Mexico practiced anticlericalism directed specifically at Rome and its followers. At no time did Mexico actively enshrine atheism in law. I’m sure there are Roman Catholics who want to pretend that anyone who isn’t Roman Catholic is an atheist.

  2. ArtHistorian2000 on

    Isn’t France basically a secular state ? Does it count as state atheism ?

  3. Maj0r-DeCoverley on

    Regarding France:

    For a brief period of revolutionary France, the country could have been considered as practicing State atheism. But that’s debatable. There were no policies in place to prevent people from believing: the target was religion, not belief, and one religion in particular. For instance, while catholic estates were confiscated, Jewish and Protestant people were almost entirely left alone (and granted citizenship, also).

    Anyway, things quickly moved to what I always call “metric God” : a vanilla imaginary friend unrelated to any religion, thus compatible with all of them. “The Great Architect”. Masonic stuff putting humanism above religions. I think that’s a shame it didn’t stick like the meter system did, by the way.

    Afterwards, the Paris commune obviously practiced militant atheism. But it didn’t have the time to be a State. So I don’t think it counts

  4. Inside-Discount-939 on

    They are good at creating gods, and their gods are the leaders of this country.

  5. AirUsed5942 on

    They replaced praising God, with praising the leader and the ruling party.

  6. You have a map that has Yugoslavia on it. Can you find a map that is at least from this century?

  7. Unable-Metal1144 on

    I’d love more countries to be officially atheist. It would be refreshing and just what is needed

  8. SystematicHydromatic on

    In the US the First Amendment prevents the government from creating or establishing a religion, and thereby prevents the power of the government from expanding beyond civil matters. The First Amendment also protects people’s right to worship however they choose, or to not worship any God at all.

  9. Interesting. I would have thought a minority of countries have state religion, especially in Western Europe. It seems it’s the other way around.

  10. Substantial_Web_6306 on

    We need to distinguish between atheism and secularism. Atheism is where I care about the existence of religion and oppose it. Secularism is where I don’t care at all about the religion of the spiritual world, like the average person does with Marvel or DC.East Asia: China, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam have all been influenced by this secular Confucian philosophy. In China a person may go to a Buddhist temple to pray in the morning and then go to a church to pray in the afternoon. In Vietnam I saw, Christ, Confucius, Buddha standing in a row of temples being worshipped by people. Perhaps Korea is now more deeply influenced by Christianity, but Japan’s native Shintoism is essentially just a folk culture, with Buddhism in decline. And Laos is entirely Buddhist. Don’t let ideology cloud judgement

  11. gloopityglooper on

    China does not “practice atheism”. They practice Chinese Folk Religion, which is an amalgamation of local traditions with a hint of Buddhism. Source: lived in China and know that 90% of people there have statues/seals of protection gods at home. Especially the kitchen god lol

  12. Also, of these countries, only China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam are socialist.

  13. South Yemen was not formally atheist though. It allowed the population to practice islam and it did not try to limit the practice of it

  14. One of the few things I admire about communists and/or former communists

  15. SomeJerkOddball on

    *There is no God, only the State. Worship accordingly.*

    Healthy outlook. /s

  16. feliks1322 on

    Poland is probably not correct. Polish People’s Republic was not particularly friendly to the catholic church, but it did support orthodoxy to some extent and it’s constitution claimed to guarantee freedom of religion . It also tried to in some way control polish catholicism, by making it more independent from the Vatican. But people were free to attend religious services and there were even openly religious people in the government. I think DDR was to some extent similar as they had christian parties in the parliament, but idk.

  17. AdventurousTarget656 on

    The world according to this thread: state-mandated murderous dictator worship = good, freedom to practice your culture and religion = bad

  18. What does state Atheism exactly mean, because you have freedom to express your religion in every current socialist country

  19. VisibleStranger489 on

    According to Reddit Atheists, all of them should be the most scientifically advanced utopias in the world.

  20. Honest question here – isn’t ’practicing atheism’ a double standard?

  21. Careless-Pin-2852 on

    Fun fact in Russia Protestant Christians are harassed and oppressed even today!

  22. yoylecaketime on

    I’ve never really grown up with anything religious. I’ve seen religious people get laughed at and ridiculed. I’m an atheist but I just really don’t think it’s that important to care about what others think. I have friends from all religions. I like to respect them all

  23. Ponchorello7 on

    The Cristero War is not often talked about, when it’s easily the second most impactful event in Mexico during the 20th century, only after the revolution. Hundreds of thousands dead, a second wave of refugees fleeing the country for the US, and the Church ended up consolidating more power and influence, and the government used it as a pretext to exert more authoritarian rule.

    If you are from western Mexico, your family was probably impacted by it in some way. One of my great uncles was a seminarian and, at the behest of his own mother, became a martyr for the cause. My family talks about it as if it were some great thing, when it was actually pretty horrifying. His mother, my great-grandmother, sent him a letter saying something along the lines of, “if you don’t die for God, you are a coward and not a real Catholic”. So, when the army rolled around the seminary and demanded they stop supporting the Catholic extremists, dude basically volunteered to be executed.

  24. GustavoistSoldier on

    All of these countries other than Mexico and France were once Marxist-Leninist regimes.

    Death is a preferable alternative to communism

  25. peacockwhite on

    So much bad information here in confusing state atheism and secularism.

    Atheism can be understood in different ways. It can either be considered as simply a lack of a belief in a god, or it can be considered as an active belief that a god does not exist. The latter tends to be the most common definition used in an academic setting whilst the former makes more sense when talking about how individuals interact with the world on a day-to-day basis (imo).

    State Atheism is when the state takes an active position in espousing the lack of belief in any religion (this includes “atheistic” religions like Buddhism otherwise places like Sri Lanka would be State Atheist). State Atheism doesn’t necessarily prohibit freedom of religion but it does mean that all religions have fewer rights in some form or another than atheism. This is very similar to the state actively having a state religion.
    When State Atheism has been applied it has almost always taken on the form of an active belief that god does not exist, and whilst it has been discriminatory against religion, there have been varying levels of tolerance and protection of religious belief.

    Secularism is when the State does not take a position in regards to religion. Secularism itself can take several forms across a spectrum. On one end you can have American-style Secularism which actively promotes religious belief and protects freedom of belief – you end up having a society which is pretty actively religious. On the other end, you can have French-style Secularism. Whilst this protects freedom of religion and treats all religions equally, it is more hostile towards religion in public and private life. However, the state does not take on an active position on the veracity or institutionalisation of any particular religious (including atheism) – hence why this is still secularism.

    Little bit added on that is more opinion:

    This may surprise a lot of people on here but even the dreaded “reddit atheist” (of which I am one) tends to be opposed to state atheism. Most of the ones I’ve seen are supportive of a French-style secular set-up. I personally think this style tends to infringe on freedom of religion too much, whereas the American style tends to permit too much discriminatory and hostile behaviour in the name of “freedom of religion”. My view is that a balance of these two is ideal.

    Hope this is of use and I’m of course happy ro discuss with anyone who disagrees.

  26. Common_Pine on

    Hm it’s almost as if state atheism is tied to state authoritarianism?

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