Englische Kommunen zahlen Millionen für die Umsiedlung obdachloser Familien aus Großstädten

What is the alternative here? Seems like a consequence of the housing crisis we have. I honestly don’t know. If there is an answer to this, I’m doubt we can see any results until 10 years from now. Can someone please tell me I’m just being miserable and I’m missing something?

Can I get moved to a cheaper part of the country. I was thinking the Somerset coast. Maybe Weston, or Minehead. Wouldn’t have to travel for my holidays then.

Moving black people out of the cities. I can’t see any problem emerging given the political views of those living in the British countryside.

This is a really interesting report and article. We have something *similar* that’s been happening in the United States, under the radar and fairly low-key, since the onset of the pandemic. Those kinds of referrals are being made, by providers, and recommended, but I’m not sure how *official* it is. The way housing works requires you to stay within your jurisdiction or establish residency elsewhere, which is generally a year (regardless of what’s legal or not in terms of time required). So, it is more typical to tell people backlogged waiting for services to move somewhere else or look somewhere else, with the rural areas being recommended. Unfortunately, economy and other factors make those moves difficult, as do the legal restraints preventing people from moving to get resources and services due to residency and jurisdictional restrictions. Displaced people end up hit the hardest, becoming kind of ‘stateless’, and having to constantly ‘move on’, being forced to be transient.

As far away from civilization as possible please… Rwanda is a good choice.

Because there aren’t enough properties in the cities, and they’re too expensive for the council to acquire, because so many people move there, especially in recent years from abroad.

Until we learn that adding hundreds of thousands of people to the housing market every year, especially people who want to move to the already hottest areas, is a bad idea and unsustainable, things like this will happen.

There’s a group campaigning against HMOs in my area. One street of 130 houses has 35 converted to HMOs. Each of the houses is split into six TINY self-contained flats that are each let to vulnerable people for £950 a month – which is apparently just within the LHA limit set by the borough. Councils sending people hundreds of miles away seems awfully cruel, but I get why they’re doing it: they’re being absolutely bankrupted by private landlords milking a system full of loopholes. We can’t keep the council houses we have, we can’t replace the ones we lose, and it’s only going to get worse. I feel for the people stuffed into horrible HMOs and I feel for the people sent to the middle of nowhere too.

When I was younger, aged 20, in the early 80s, I got a council flat on the edge of Bristol after a year on the waiting list. This was not unusual. I was single, working and only qualified because I lived in a bed sit and had always lived in the borough.
I mentioned this because that’s how available local authority housing was.
Since then, despite a series of policy decisions, mostly for good economic reasons (immigration) and because of changing demographics, demand for housing has gone up, while our planning system and failure to re invest the money from sales back into public housing has led to a shortage.
These were deliberate policy decisions, with predictable outcomes. We completely failed to invest in housing and other infrastructure instead preferring to reduce tax and borrowing in the short term. This is the nonsense trickle down, light touch, market led based economics of the limitations. Proven not to work for decades, still being promoted in the usual quarters.

Britain chose not to invest in its medium and long term future. Well, that choice has consequences and these are they.

Now, it might be that some here, and elsewhere, think that immigration is the beginning and end of this problem, but that ignores the reality of what’s happened. There has been immigration and we failed to properly plan for it.
We also have a huge pension bubble and various other lack of investment issues causing low growth and a productivity problem which will not go away unless we invest. We literally can not afford to reduce immigration by the kinds of numbers some are speaking about (on this thread, send em home and their kids).

This is a complex issue, and this is a simplified summary of some of the causes. But it’s a darn sight better than some of the patently bigoted opinions around.

Which of the immigrants do we want “send home”? The students that keep universities going and contribute to local and national economies? The nurses? The care home workers that care for our elderly? Agricultural workers? Doctors? Those in the trades? It all the Ukrainians who’s compatriots are fighting a war partly for us?

I don’t have a political axe to grind as such, but being in denial or misunderstanding complex problems in a complex world doesn’t solve anything.