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    Ab heute treten in Irland neue Gesetze gegen Hassverbrechen in Kraft

    https://www.thejournal.ie/new-hate-crime-laws-come-into-force-in-ireland-from-today-6583187-Dec2024/

    Von badger-biscuits

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    27 Comments

    1. Historical-Ring-910 on

      “and is widely supported by the public” fucking what?? Not the irish public. What public supported this?

    2. muttonwow on

      Once this passes and the public immediately stops caring because the Internet hysteria dies, it’ll make a clear case for the expanded hate speech laws that have been worked on.

    3. MrFnRayner on

      If you’re upset about being punished for a hate crime, don’t commit hate crimes.

      Freedom of speech is not affected, you just face harsher consequences for being racist, homophobic or transphobic publicly.

      That’s a good thing.

    7. joc95 on

      People who are against the hate speech law. Can any of you give examples of things you or anyone else may say that would cause them to break that law or get a conviction?

    8. The3rdbaboon on

      Cool. Build a new prison and recruit more Gardaí please. Although I think this is all she’s really capable of unfortunately.

      Surely in the running for the worst Justice minister ever.

    9. irish_guy on

      Is there any legal TLDR?

      Do these laws just punish people for existing laws but enhance the punishment if it’s motivated by hatred?

      Or is their new laws for speech? i.e if I called someone a racial slur, is that in itself now punishable without any other factors?

    10. JammyNugget on

      This could be the beginning of a slippery slope into authoritarianism

    11. nobodyshome01 on

       Other than online, I’ve never heard anyone discuss this legislation. Maybe I’m in a bit of a bubble, but it didn’t even come up as an issue people cared about during the general election – and at the time, I was having conversations about politics nearly every day. It makes me wonder if too much weight is being given to the voices opposing this, especially since it seems to have caught the attention of foreign commentators online who don’t fully understand how Irish law works.

    12. martywhelan699 on

      Higher jail terms for crimes motivated by hatred. So what prisons are they going to put them in since there all full? It won’t be enforced

    13. fwaig on

      Not saying I agree with it or disagree with it. However, I think there are much more important issues at present to be dealt with e.g. Our capital city being an absolute hell-hole for one, our prisons being full to the brim so much so that suspended sentences are being handed out like smarties by the judiciary, sheer wanton lawlessness on the roads. Read the room, Minister.

    14. padrot on

      Worst Justice Minister in recent memory. Zero deterrent for dragged-up scum destroying Dublin.

    15. Max-Battenberg on

      Real finger on the pulse stuff here. That’ll stop the lawlessness and impunity with which the gangs operate under 

    16. chococheese419 on

      this is perfectly fine and idk why people are mad? maybe people are mixing up hate crime and hate speech. No one said anything about the latter. It’s not hard to not assault people.

      Anyways this will only be useful if they actually build prisons to put the offenders… otherwise it’s just de-facto legal like every other crime

    17. Cushiemushy on

      Smoke and mirrors as usual.. She didn’t get her hate speech bill through – which is the obvious main play so we go half by half, half now when everyone’s busy (when’s the last time them c***s done work over Christmas they hardly bother to show up to vote) and then when there’s not too much pushback we get the real deal.

      All aimed at policing the internet and making it very difficult for groups who dissent to assemble online or without surveillance and being subject to the regulations of the government they are protesting. Breaking the will of the people to resist. It’s a genius play. They hate being called out in public and loosing face more than anything. Egos like children. It’s literally that simple. No global conspiracy needed.

    18. DazzlingGovernment68 on

      Read the article. This isn’t the incitement to hatred legislation that was freaking out so many people.

    20. Loud_Glove6833 on

      All the while people are being beaten unconscious and mugged daily in our city centre with fuck all Garda presence.

    21. No-Dimension9500 on

      As with everything in Ireland, it doesn’t matter because it won’t be enforced.

      It’s like worrying about speeding laws in rural Ireland. There are no laws.

    23. Beamrules on

      Is it *really* that hard to build a new prison? Am I being dumb or can someone play devil’s advocate and tell me why we can’t just build a new prison.

    25. NoTeaNoWin on

      X far right: Mcentee is the worst minister of justice ever.

      Reddit far left: Mcentee is the worst minister of Justice ever

      Real life: Mcentee top of the poll in the GE

      There is some dissonance alright

    27. BigPapaSmurf7 on

      I don’t think people should be egits, but I also don’t think being an egit should be illegal. This is a terrible day for our island in my humble opinion.

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