Umfragen zeigen, dass Labours Steuerplan für Privatschulen von der Öffentlichkeit stark unterstützt wird

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/dec/31/labours-private-school-tax-plan-strongly-backed-by-public-poll-shows?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-5

Von BestButtons

21 Comments

  1. eyupfatman on

    As much as all the angry right wing posters have tried to make out otherwise, the idea of very well off people dodging tax doesn’t gain any sympathy from the public. B-b-but what about Tarquin!

  2. BestButtons on

    > The poll, commissioned by the Private Education Policy Forum (PEPF) thinktank, found that 54% of people backed the idea, with 22% opposing it. This is an even greater margin of support than seen in similar polls carried out before the election.

    Furthermore:

    > The polling of more than 2,000 people showed wider disquiet with the status quo, with 57% saying they found the overall private education system to be unfair and 22% disagreeing.

    Also, looks like the schools have been very keen on increasing their fees:

    > Private school fees had **risen by about 75% in real terms since 2000**, with the average annual cost per child now about £18,000 a year, “which is clearly out of reach for the majority of parents in our country”, Keir Starmer’s official spokesperson said.

    Not including the inflation.

  3. MondeyMondey on

    As a culture we gotta start viewing private school as what it is: some kids that just need a little extra help. And there’s nothing wrong with being a little slower than the kids in state school.

  4. LovelyBigBrownClock on

    Erm, pretty unsurprisingly? (Not convinced by the French comparator mentioned in the article, myself. Not that this is especially relevant.)

  5. Zestyclose-Emu-549 on

    But they are not VAT taxing private tuition. Doesn’t make sense.

  6. Harthacnut on

    Go to a private school and watch the drop off/pick up times.

    Look at the fantastically expensive cars.

    There may well be a squeezed middle that have given up holidays/nice cars to put the kids into the school, but the majority are minted and could soak up the 20% easily. (Heh, downgrading the car or one less ski trip would cover it.)

    The kind of parents who send their kids to a private school are very driven, the very kind of people who have no problem writing strongly worded letters. Are very good at NIMBYism and other campaigns.

    The very rich parents are a very happy group to have such a vociferous group of people saving them from paying extra fees.

  7. RecipeSpecialist2745 on

    “Class envy”… lol. Ahhh no people just want their kids educated.

  8. Chemistry-Deep on

    I think there’s a quiet majority of the population who broadly support almost all the “controversial” policies Labour have announced so far.

  9. Old-Amphibian416 on

    It’s those with special needs that will hurt the most. There are plenty of parents who moved their child to a private school because the mainstream state system cannot support their child’s needs and the specialist state schools are too over subscribed.

  10. RaymondBumcheese on

    Strongly backed by the public, not backed by the public school alumni at The Telegraph, apparently. 

  11. Organic_Cat_Poo on

    There are a lot of low key private schools where middle class parents send their kids. The rich will not be affected by this. They have highly efficient tax structures in place.

    The people think the money from the new tax will go into the public school system. It won’t.

    The public school system is pathetic for maths and science and way behind the rest of the world. Fix that first before putting up barriers to private education.

    This is the UK crab mentality. It’s almost a sin to be successful or strive to be earn better. Engineers or doctors anyone skilled can and do double or triple their net pay by leaving the UK.

  12. Potential_Cover1206 on

    So body who’s existence is based on “significantly reducing inequalities of access, outcomes and resources for pupils as these arise from private education.’ commissions a poll that shows people support imposing VAT on private schools.

    What a f**king surprise.

  13. OverUnderDone_ on

    And whats the option? Put your kid in a local school that is labelled ‘Inadequate’. They are a postcode lottery and saying the new funds will ‘bring up standards’ is all political talk – so far there is nothing. There are 566000 teachers in FTE in the UK. The VAT removal will raise 1.5billion (depending on what their definition is of a Billion today) comes to about £1800 per teacher per year. There are 10 million kids at school and that equates to ~£100 per child per year extra.

    Most associate private schools with ‘Eaton’ or somewhere like that, and that is far from the normal. As usual, you can skew any numbers to suit your agenda.. There are no tax breaks for parents putting their kids through the schools – its the school that do not charge VAT but can claim their VAT back and are not charged buisness rates.

    As they are now buisnesses, they are fully entitiled to claim back as many things they deem suitable for the running of the school.. that includes that new gymnasium. (which under the VAT excemtion, would not have been able to)

    Unless you have a kid in school and are living the public nightmare or blessing, you should not be able to give your opinion.

  14. Logical_Monk_4506 on

    I grew up in Eastern Europe in the late 80s/ 90s and after making UK my home, the UK seems to duly oblige and slowly change itself into my old one:
    * police intimidating journalists (seriously wtf) 
    * actively discouraging good education, good pay 
    * the whole mentality that it’s outrageous for people who work hard to do well 
    * the “it will get worse before it gets better” mantra.
    * the NHS (and no more tax won’t fix it, it will just throw more money down the drain)
    And other things just under the surface.

    It’s a weird feeling and guys there’s no need to do that!

  15. noo I was assured that private schools were a key avenue of social mobility for aspirational parents!

  16. And farmers inheritance, and winter fuel payments. 

    But labour bad according to the papers.

  17. teflchinajobs on

    Middle class people are the only ones who will be punished by this tax. Truly wealth people won’t blink at a few £1000s more a year. Middle class parents struggling to send their children to private school will be forced into the state school system.

    Most British people won’t be happy until we’re all equally poor. It’s a truly Soviet mindset, envy disguised as “fairness”. We should be promoting social mobility not stymying it.

  18. turbobiscuit2000 on

    My local primary school has 30% of children meeting the required standards in English and maths (!!), 2% achieving at a higher level (which should be around 10%), 25% of students with persistent absence, a poor reputation locally, and an Ofsted rating which flickers between ‘Good’ and ‘Requires Improvement’. The only alternative is to send our children to public school, but with VAT we cannot afford it. I just want someone on the Labour front bench to tell me what my family should do. I think once you get past the unworkable (‘become a governor and single-handedly transform the school!’), the infeasible (‘move / pretend to be religious’), you are left with a government that doesn’t really care what people like me do.

  19. AlpsSad1364 on

    People in favour of taxing other people shocker.

    Next week: poll shows people strongly against paying more tax themselves.

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