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    Steve Bannon sagt, es gebe keinen MAGA-Bürgerkrieg, weil Elon Musk „nicht hart genug“ sei


    Steve Bannon sagt, es gebe keinen MAGA-Bürgerkrieg, weil Elon Musk „nicht hart genug“ sei

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/steve-bannon-maga-elon-musk-war-b2671686.html

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    3. AnonHondaBoiz on

      Of course Elmo’s enemies are going to win an argument on a platform Elmo runs

      They surely won’t get censored because Elmo is the greatest free speech absolutist of our time right?

    4. Choice-of-SteinsGate on

      > According to the former Trump strategist, who previously called Musk a “toddler” after the X (formerly Twitter) owner profanely attacked his right-wing critics, there wasn’t a MAGA “civil war” on immigrant workers because Musk is “not tough enough” and “folded” on the issue amid the far-right backlash.

      So there’s no factionalism within the Republican party… But I guess hurling petty insults at your supposed allies and incessantly arguing about an issue that was once a unifying cause, and has now obviously created a schism between the party’s most influential and powerful figures doesn’t count.

    5. Valyx_3 on

      Ah yes a little game of poke the bear. This should end the civil war in MAGA in a way that’s great for democrats with a bit of luck.

    6. TimArthurScifiWriter on

      Steve, you really should’ve picked a different color when you decided you were always gonna be wearing a coat. Brown doesn’t age well in fascists movements.

    7. Due-Rip-5860 on

      It’s almost as if Bannon and Musk are fighting over the same girl friend

    8. BusinessAd5844 on

      Literally confirms there is a civil war with that one comment.

    9. nonamenolastname on

      Musk is expecting a return on that quarter billion dollars investment, so he will be patient for a while. At one point, however, his gigantic ego will go into “fuck it” mode.

      And it will be glorious…

    13. minus_minus on

      There’s no MAGA ‘civil war’ because a social media slap fight is not a civil war. 

      I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

    14. Foreign-Repeat9813 on

      In the H-1B debate it would be helpful to not lose the plot and keep the main thing the main thing.

      H-1B visas are primarily a vehicle for US corporations to get access to cheaper foreign labor with reduced labor protections. H1B workers always live under the threat of being deported if they lose their job, which forces them to be more compliant to their corporate masters while they’re here. If we really cared about improving US workers’ tech skills, we’d just spend money training and educating US citizens, especially our many intelligent and ambitious veterans.

      [Corporate document reveals how tech firms ignore the law and systematically rob migrant workers](https://www.epi.org/publication/new-evidence-widespread-wage-theft-in-the-h-1b-program/)

      [H-1B: Unseen dangers of employer fraud](https://wasden.law/h1b-the-unseen-dangers-of-employer-fraud/)

    16. Mikolaj_Kopernik on

      What’s truly wild is that Bannon has been calling out the Vance-Musk-Thiel-etc. ideological project (i.e. Mencius Moldbug’s “dark enlightenment”). Given their view of corporatist autocracy is whole reason they’re on board and driving the Trump train, Bannon going after it seems to indicate that he’s digging in further for a big fight against the tech oligarchs (though not because he cares about reining in oligarchy but because the oligarchy isn’t racist enough). I can’t figure out if this creates an opening for the anti-oligarchy lefties to peel off some MAGA support or if it’s just more of a personality conflict that will be resolved with some kind of internal settlement.

    18. brpajense on

      If this were Russia, either Bannon would fall out a window or Musk would get arrested and his company would be nationalized.

      In Trump’s America, how does this end up?  Bannon “chokes” on a Big Mac?  Musk gets audited?  My money is on Musk surviving because Musk talked back against Trump’s immigration stuff and Trump rolled over, so I think Musk has something on Trump…

    19. FF3 on

      Tech bros want more H1Bs, MAGA wants fewer: end result is almost certainly Trump doing nothing, as that’s what’s easiest to do and doesn’t cost him anything. A compromise that would reform the system while increasing the head count for companies that conveniently include Musks might seem like something a person could imagine, but compromising with MAGA is like trying to arm wrestle a catfish.

      This issue is a political goldmine for MAGA, however, and I’d expect them to keep bringing it up like a cudgel.

      You can tell that neither side is serious about trying to make any moves on this yet, that it’s just posturing, because neither side has pointed out that this splits democratic voters as well. If this does get serious, Musk will reach out to finance and corporations aka democratic moderates, and MAGA will try to forge alliances with the left.

      (So, I guess, spoiler: democratic moderates will be trying to frame this as about how MAGA’s position is rooted in racism, while left will be talking about how this is all about President Musk and the greed and power of oligarchs.)

    24. Magggggneto on

      Elon Musk got Trump to bend the knee. There’s no MAGA civil war because Musk already won.

    25. steve_ample on

      Man, Stevie, you really like fighting foreigner grifters sniffing around circles of power, don’t ya? I mean Seb Gorka last time, and now Elon.

      Don’t get me wrong, please continue by all means – it’s just me and my observations

    26. d_e_l_u_x_e on

      You know we wouldn’t hear about this guy if the media stopped reporting on him.

    27. raerae1991 on

      Wars are won by war chest and funding, so musk could have the balls

    29. postconsumerwat on

      I am not sure any of them are really tough… maybe some of their supporters are tough… there are some tough people in the world…

      On TV isn’t it all just wheenie-vision… I think we all know

    30. cdoink on

      Let’s just wait and see what Elon’s twitter alter ego accounts have to say about this

    31. stregawitchboy on

      Bannon and his tough-guy bullshit again? He’d drop dead if he tried to throw a punch.

    32. momyeeter on

      There are exactly 0 tough men who are republicans.

      You can tell because they’re all screaming about how tough they are.

    33. AtomicNick47 on

      buddy thought he was so close to power. He really thought that he almost had the reigns. No Steve, you’re just a peasant like the rest of us.

    34. MajesticsEleven on

      There’s no civil war because Elon Musk controls Donald Trump.

      And the moment Donald Trump tests that fact, Elon Musk will threaten to fund MAGA rivals.

    36. happyfunslide on

      “The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”

      -Steve Bannon

    37. 12345Hamburger on

      “Elon Musk is not tough enough,” says 71-year-old alcohol-soaked ball of spoiled bread dough.

    38. DaySoc98jr on

      Don’t believe I’d publicly go personal against the world’s richest man.

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