Without knowing the question that was asked, the results mean nothing – [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks) (Yes Minister clip).
ThereAndFapAgain2 on
I mean, that makes the majority of children smart since they’re the ones getting stabbed by the minority of children.
DecentManufacturer27 on
Good children can’t vote because they’re dumb as fuck
IgotAseaView on
I’m glad the opinion so far is children are dumb because I’d hate for them to make a life altering change that all the adults agree to. Cough
JC_snooker on
It should be simple. They should say it’s a weapon search. If they find small amounts of drugs or whatever they should ignore it.
Not use it as a stick to beat people with. But a legit way to get knives off the street.
nvmbernine on
Quite interesting that the questions are clearly leading an outcome favourable to the use of such measures.
Leading questions are forbidden in examination-in-chief because the solicitor is not allowed to lead their witness and in effect put words into their mouth.
Funny that it doesn’t seem to apply to a survey that is related to the enforcement of laws/acts enacted by police.
0Neverland0 on
Telegraph: The voting age should not be lowered
Also Telegraph: Majority of children back stop and search
*You might almost think they selectively pick facts that fit their readers existing predjuices …*
AcademicIncrease8080 on
I’ve been stop and searched once by plained clothes police officers (after the 2011 riots). They just checked my pockets and the IMEI of my phone (which was a Nokia 3310 as if that was stolen lol), they didn’t find any knives and the phone was clean, so they quickly let me and my friend go. If you cooperate with them they will normally be friendly and courteous – typically they’re being abused left right and centre so if you’re calm and cooperative they will appreciate it.
And if you are stop and searched and do have a weapon or stolen goods, then that probably means the police were absolutely correct in suspecting you – and if you keep on getting stop and searched but you’re innocent it’s almost certainly because you’re dressed in a black tracksuit and have a mini drug dealing bag (I have police officer friends and they say it’s incredibly obvious who the bad people are).
Me-myself-I-2024 on
The only problem with stop and search is if the person being stopped has something to hide
It’s no different to random stops on motorists
MimesAreShite on
not surprising that the majority of british children are authoritarians, since the majority of british adults are also authoritarians
Grumpyoldgit1958 on
I live in the LB of Lewisham. We walk our son (year 6) to school. At least once per term we have change the route due to police closing areas due to stabbings. Allegedly most of the crime is teenage drug related. Turf wars. When nearly all these stabbings are young black kids stabbing other black kids, it makes sense to spend resources on those committing the crimes, rather than trying to be politically correct !
Locally we also have an epidemic of phone snatching. The perpetrators are usually on electric bikes and wearing full facial masks and gloves. Personally I do think we should ban all face coverings in public. If they can’t remain anonymous I am sure the frequency of thefts will drop.
Grayson81 on
How many articles have the Telegraph published arguing against votes for 16 and 17 year olds because anyone under 18 has worthless opinions?
It’s strange to see them change their tune when they see someone agreeing with them…
Top-Ambition-6966 on
The majority of children back sweets for dinner dont ask kids theyre idiots
Happy-Formal4435 on
As outsider who visited Great Britain thanks to my Georgian friend he knocked out two bastards children who asked for smoke.
I was surprised by that, but me friend assured it’s necessary if ya want safely escape ceaspool.
TwiztedZero on
No stop and searches – instead you need a radar scanner you can wave at people to detect knives and guns from a distance without being intrusive. Simple, otherwise it’s harassment.
You could also install sidewalk check points with panels that can detect knives and guns as people walk through the area. You don’t need to physically check people over – this is harassment. Be invisible, and proactive instead.
If you can’t do any of that then DOOM ON YOU and the Administration you rode in on.
Haemophilia_Type_A on
IIRC a majority of pretty much every group polled supports stop and search because they believe it’s effective at stopping crime.
The problem is that studies have consistently shown that stop and search DOES NOT WORK as a deterrent and that it doesn’t lower levels of violent crime or drug crime.
All it works to achieve is to alienate young people of those demographics that are disproportionately targeted by the police and to thus make the police’s work harder in the long run by fostering distrust between the police and the areas they require the consent of to govern, so goes the British model of policing.
I think most people even on this sub support it. I’ve linked many studies before showing it doesn’t work but people rarely seem interested in the actual evidence because “tough on crime” things makes people feel good even if they’re either ineffective or, in the case of tougher sentencing, outright harmful.
Unhappy-Paint-9224 on
Question is does Reddit agree or disagree that stop and search works?
Immediate-Expert-139 on
What’s the point? When the punishment is a slap on the wrist anyway? We can catch all the criminals we want, but when they’re not being punished/rehabilitated, it’s just a massive waste of everybody’s time and money. The punishments for violent crime, specifically knife crime, are a joke in this country.
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Without knowing the question that was asked, the results mean nothing – [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks) (Yes Minister clip).
I mean, that makes the majority of children smart since they’re the ones getting stabbed by the minority of children.
Good children can’t vote because they’re dumb as fuck
I’m glad the opinion so far is children are dumb because I’d hate for them to make a life altering change that all the adults agree to. Cough
It should be simple. They should say it’s a weapon search. If they find small amounts of drugs or whatever they should ignore it.
Not use it as a stick to beat people with. But a legit way to get knives off the street.
Quite interesting that the questions are clearly leading an outcome favourable to the use of such measures.
Leading questions are forbidden in examination-in-chief because the solicitor is not allowed to lead their witness and in effect put words into their mouth.
Funny that it doesn’t seem to apply to a survey that is related to the enforcement of laws/acts enacted by police.
Telegraph: The voting age should not be lowered
Also Telegraph: Majority of children back stop and search
*You might almost think they selectively pick facts that fit their readers existing predjuices …*
I’ve been stop and searched once by plained clothes police officers (after the 2011 riots). They just checked my pockets and the IMEI of my phone (which was a Nokia 3310 as if that was stolen lol), they didn’t find any knives and the phone was clean, so they quickly let me and my friend go. If you cooperate with them they will normally be friendly and courteous – typically they’re being abused left right and centre so if you’re calm and cooperative they will appreciate it.
And if you are stop and searched and do have a weapon or stolen goods, then that probably means the police were absolutely correct in suspecting you – and if you keep on getting stop and searched but you’re innocent it’s almost certainly because you’re dressed in a black tracksuit and have a mini drug dealing bag (I have police officer friends and they say it’s incredibly obvious who the bad people are).
The only problem with stop and search is if the person being stopped has something to hide
It’s no different to random stops on motorists
not surprising that the majority of british children are authoritarians, since the majority of british adults are also authoritarians
I live in the LB of Lewisham. We walk our son (year 6) to school. At least once per term we have change the route due to police closing areas due to stabbings. Allegedly most of the crime is teenage drug related. Turf wars. When nearly all these stabbings are young black kids stabbing other black kids, it makes sense to spend resources on those committing the crimes, rather than trying to be politically correct !
Locally we also have an epidemic of phone snatching. The perpetrators are usually on electric bikes and wearing full facial masks and gloves. Personally I do think we should ban all face coverings in public. If they can’t remain anonymous I am sure the frequency of thefts will drop.
How many articles have the Telegraph published arguing against votes for 16 and 17 year olds because anyone under 18 has worthless opinions?
It’s strange to see them change their tune when they see someone agreeing with them…
The majority of children back sweets for dinner dont ask kids theyre idiots
As outsider who visited Great Britain thanks to my Georgian friend he knocked out two bastards children who asked for smoke.
I was surprised by that, but me friend assured it’s necessary if ya want safely escape ceaspool.
No stop and searches – instead you need a radar scanner you can wave at people to detect knives and guns from a distance without being intrusive. Simple, otherwise it’s harassment.
You could also install sidewalk check points with panels that can detect knives and guns as people walk through the area. You don’t need to physically check people over – this is harassment. Be invisible, and proactive instead.
If you can’t do any of that then DOOM ON YOU and the Administration you rode in on.
IIRC a majority of pretty much every group polled supports stop and search because they believe it’s effective at stopping crime.
The problem is that studies have consistently shown that stop and search DOES NOT WORK as a deterrent and that it doesn’t lower levels of violent crime or drug crime.
All it works to achieve is to alienate young people of those demographics that are disproportionately targeted by the police and to thus make the police’s work harder in the long run by fostering distrust between the police and the areas they require the consent of to govern, so goes the British model of policing.
I think most people even on this sub support it. I’ve linked many studies before showing it doesn’t work but people rarely seem interested in the actual evidence because “tough on crime” things makes people feel good even if they’re either ineffective or, in the case of tougher sentencing, outright harmful.
Question is does Reddit agree or disagree that stop and search works?
What’s the point? When the punishment is a slap on the wrist anyway? We can catch all the criminals we want, but when they’re not being punished/rehabilitated, it’s just a massive waste of everybody’s time and money. The punishments for violent crime, specifically knife crime, are a joke in this country.