Wenn Sie sich US-amerikanische Mathematikkurse für Studenten auf YouTube ansehen, handelt es sich bei den Inhalten im Wesentlichen um die letzten beiden Jahre der deutschen High School. Selbst am MIT oder in Harvard werden Studierenden der Ingenieur- und Naturwissenschaften zunächst die Grundlagen von Ableitungen und Integralen vermittelt, wobei der Schwerpunkt auf der Anwendung liegt und es kaum Beweise gibt. Später gibt es Kurse für Fortgeschrittene und die talentiertesten Studenten können, wie ich höre, den Schnellkurs absolvieren, aber das ist die Standardeinstellung.
In Deutschland wird von einem erwartet, dass man das alles bereits vom ersten Tag an weiß. Angehende Ingenieure und (Informatiker) Wissenschaftler müssen sich ab der ersten Woche des ersten Semesters einem Beweis nach dem anderen stellen. Logik, Mengenlehre, Folgen, Reihen, Konvergenz, Mittelwertsatz, Zwischenwertsatz usw. Zahlen sieht man kaum.
Wo steht Polen in diesem Spektrum? Ich spreche von großen öffentlichen Universitäten.
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Von opolsce
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Closer to Germany rather than US.
I don’t speak German but I recognize some of equations from the screens above being used in first 1-2 years at my college.
Well in set theory you learn set THEORY. I don’t know of anything like applied ST. Analysis, algebra it’s theory in lectures and exercises in uhh exercises.
3rd year of computer science faculty: we had to kearn how to solve systems of 60+ equasions /facepalm. Guess how many times I used it in my mature life.
That kinda depends on the university (usually technical ones are more demanding regarding the study lines mentioned). Generally in the first years of Bachelor we are taught a lot of mathematics. I mean that we have subjects such as Probability, Math Analysis, Statistics, Linear Algebra, which are worth most ECTS in the whole Programme. And (at least) I have had to do all the topics mentioned by you. Also during the defense we normally are expected to present our project in a more business way, but l8r members of the ‘jury’ (usually one professor and 2 phd’s, but that’s not a rule) can ask u about whatever you’ve learned earlier during the whole programme and you rarely know what they will ask you about, because they draw the question from the ‘question bank’.
Closer to germany but teachers are underfunded and hate their life.
Integrals are taught in the first semester +- there is a short intensive math crash course then (it depends on Uni how they do this). After that it’s similar to what it’s in Germany.
It works like that because Integrals are not required in High School advanced math programs and people go to IT studies from different school backgrounds – you don’t have to finish advanced math at high school to get to Uni, you need to pass abitur from required subjects at a good level.
How theoretical is Uni depends on two factors
– if it’s Polytechnique or University – Universities are usually less theoretical, and usually you don’t have Physics or more engineering subjects at them – but you end it with a title of “Licencjat” not “Inżynier”
– what the school thinks is important
First year in technical uni
Depends. University will almost always be more “theoretical” than Politechnika. Also depends on the university. I studied math at University of Warsaw and it was very “theoretical”. The only real life applications and numbers I saw in the undergraduate course was during numerical methods and statistics classes.