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    Laut staatlichen Zeitungen hatte Königin Elizabeth II. eine schlechte Meinung zu Orangenmärschen


    Königin Elisabeth II. hatte laut staatlichen Zeitungen eine schlechte Meinung zu den Märschen in Orange

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y7kwxyvg3o

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    1. Dordymechav on

      Many monarchists did. My dad served in NI and he fucking hated them, said there were nothing but extremists and trouble makers.

    2. hobbityone on

      What’s the difference between and apple and an orange?

      You can’t call someone an apple bastard

    3. 1DarkStarryNight on

      Fair play to Liz on that.

      Wish the Scottish government grew a spine & banned those bigoted marches for good.

    4. SojournerInThisVale on

      The King will even more, I imagine. He’s probably the most pro-Catholic monarch since Edward VII

    6. Plodderic on

      Orange marches are such a repellent concept to the average British person that I wouldn’t be surprised if they turned out to be driven by undercover Irish Republicans.

    7. WaitForItLegenDairy on

      Its always been the goal of the Orange Order to promote suppression and divide the population along the religious divide.

      Genuinely, no one other than them give a shit about a 300 year old battle that no-one gave a feck about even back in those days

      Just dicks being dicks

    8. WebDevWarrior on

      Having seen what Trumps followers did during the Capital riots, I’m not a fan of orange fanboys as a general rule either.

    9. Extension_Earth9233 on

      As a person who lives in East Belfast where the marches walk past murals dedicated to her and the same people consider royalty higher than the pope this is fucking hilarious. 

    10. 0ttoChriek on

      I watched Simon Reeves’ Ireland again the other day, and there’s a stretch in it that sums up the Orange Order “traditions and culture” on the Twelfth.

      Starts off with the big, wooden pallet bonfires the night before, that are about fifty feet tall and have Irish flags and effigies of the Pope chucked onto them, while people drink Coors Light and Budweiser. Fine. It’s boneheaded but it’s not physically hurting anyone unless the pallet inferno falls over.

      Then they have the march the next day, and it all starts off quite nicely – through loyalist neighbourhoods with families watching and cheering, as they clap along to the same three songs over and over. Great, so far so good. Everyone’s happy and marchers feel like heroes.

      But then the other “traditional” bit happens. The marchers want to follow “traditional routes” through Catholic neighbourhoods, and the police have to be deployed in riot gear to block the roads. A mob forms around the marchers and starts throwing bricks and bottles at the police until water cannons are deployed to disperse them. And what could have been a cheerful day for all those loyalists, a display of national pride and community solidarity, ends up being just another riot.

      I’m not surprised that the Queen wasn’t a fan.

    11. Boneary on

      Never been a fan of the Orange Order myself, started with learning about the Troubles in secondary school- the texts did not have anything especially nice to say about them.

      Then on a personal level, I went to university in Liverpool and briefly lived in Everton, apparently near enough to their lodge I could hear them practicing their music on the lead up to July 1st- not the sort of thing you want waking up hung over.

    12. Historical-Ask-427 on

      Orange culture infects more in the UK than most people realise. Even down to the idea of “loyal” branches of football teams who side with Rangers.

      The orange order and it’s culture is rooted in British Imperialism.

    13. BearSnowWall on

      The Royals seem to actively avoid anything with sectarian connotations.

      They don’t encourage anything that will stoke sectarian tensions.

      A lot of Loyalists portray themselves as staunch Royalists, but the Royals don’t entertain them.

    15. Even-Mango7959 on

      Agh just give the shitty little speck of land back to ROI.
      Anyone who identifies as British can come and live in Liverpool where they’ll be welcome.
      Everyone else is Irish.
      End of the fucking saga.

    16. SingerFirm1090 on

      I think “silly marching business” sums up the attitude of most in the UK to the Orange Order and their marches. It’s the equivalent of a dog peeing on lampposts to mark theit territory.

    17. Reesno33 on

      It’s so weird going over to NI if your English because it has all this Catholic/ Prosatant agro with the curb stones painted to show what area you are in and loads of History and traditions which we in England don’t have a clue about and don’t give a fuck about but if you say the wrong thing in the wrong place you might get beaten up. Honestly the whole country is just like a shit town in England but with strong religious views.

    18. RedWineDrunk_Randy on

      >Reacting to what was said in the publication of the Irish state papers, a senior member of the Orange Order described it as a “throw away comment” with no context of the totality of the conversation.

      Nope, she thought you were a bunch of arseholes. Everyone who can think feels the same way.

    20. Complete_Ad_8257 on

      I’m English. I want a United Ireland. These people are an embarrassment. They need to get with the program. They are Irish, not British.

    21. KombuchaBot on

      It’s ridiculous that the Orange Order is allowed to have its marches. 

    22. Loose_Teach7299 on

      They’re just hooligans pretending to be posh, so I’m not surprised.

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